<div><div dir="auto">I think to answer that question would be to sling more mud. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 at 09:33, Japheth Osumo <<a href="mailto:japhethosumo528@gmail.com" target="_blank">japhethosumo528@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">I confess that I haven't gone through all the conversations, but who is mudslinging who?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 11:06 AM Kristian Thy <<a href="mailto:thy@42.dk" target="_blank">thy@42.dk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">Agreed. I'm normally not one to announce my departure, but I do fell someone needs to tell the oversized egos here that their petty kindergarten mudslinging is actively driving disengagement. I've been a mapper since before meeting up with Steve and Nick in Copenhagen in the summer of 2006, and I'm done now. It's beyond ridiculous.</p>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">It seems like monthly or so, about the time a board meeting is announced that the silly emails start pouring in. I share the same frustrations that others have about the negativity (and seemingly uselessness) of the discussions. I have normally just started deleting the emails as they come in.
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<div style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">For those of you who enjoy it, just keep on bickering.</div>
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