<div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2799">Thanks Carsten...I understand a bit better now..</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2798"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2800" dir="ltr">By the way, I am not clear where I should be looking for the AJAX response (to see the via_point values and route_instructions) in firebug output...can you provide some guidance? I see the firebug output at the bottom of the map...</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2801" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I will ignore the via_indices as you pointed out there may be errors with it.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2807" dir="ltr">And I guess interpolation using the azimuth? would work?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2797" dir="ltr">Regards<br>Sriram<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2808"><span></span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2587" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2586" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2795" dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2796" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Carsten Malchow <carsten64stadt@gmx.de><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 3, 2014 12:35 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSRM-talk] Plotting position in time using OSRM<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2585" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7905548454"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2584"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2583" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2582">
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2633">Please look at this example</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2634">and open firebug to see the JSON response.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2632">here I add a Way point.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2630">there you see that the via_point has 3 elements as also the via_indices, but this via_indices not corrosponed to any numbers in the route_instruction.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2629">If you reach the way point then in the route instruction the driving directions contains the number 9, for the start points is 10 and for the end point is 15. Also you start from a point and all information you have is related to the next point. Means for example your startpoint contains an entry of 200m means that in 200m the next point is coming.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2627"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7905548454text-link" target="_blank" href="http://osrm.at/ag6">osrm.at/ag6</a></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417629325644_2580">I hope I could example this clearly now.</div>
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<div>According to you b.) question may be interpolation would help, becouse you have only route instructions if a bigger change in the direction will occure.</div>
<div>reagards</div>
<div>C</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 03. Dezember 2014 um 12:20 Uhr<br clear="none">
<b>Von:</b> "S R" <sriram_ott@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
<b>An:</b> "Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM" <osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org><br clear="none">
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [OSRM-talk] Plotting position in time using OSRM</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26263">Thanks Carsten.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26057"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26234">To clarify then:</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26261">a. if position is 4, i can find the location of the corresponding start point using via_point[4]. </div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26529"> This does not seem correct though when I look at the example API (Requesting Routes section):</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26531"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26530" target="_blank" href="https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Server-api">https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Server-api </a></div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26579"> In that case there is only start and end, but the route_instructions array has 6 elements.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_27063"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26595"> The position values of these 6 elements are 0, 2, 3, 8, 17, 20.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_27065"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_27068"> The via_points array has only 2 elements.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26236"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26580"> So it is not clear how to interpret the "position" attribute.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26055">b. I realize now that the travel times is the time for travel to the next via point. That is why the end point has a travel time of 0.</div>
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<div> It is still unclear of course how I can figure out the lat+long of position along a street.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26249">Thanks</div>
<div>Sriram</div>
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<hr size="1"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Carsten Malchow <carsten64stadt@gmx.de><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:49 AM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSRM-talk] Plotting position in time using OSRM</font></div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15337">Hi,</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26047"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26045">["Turn left",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15336"> "High Street",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15341"> 200, /// yes this is Integer in the unit of meters from the last instruction</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15343"> 4, // Posistion of instructions according to the geomerty and of course to the start point</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26042"> // dont be scared if this number not follwong the ristrict order if of 3 not follwos 4.</div>
<div> // as I understand this correct this occur because of a generalizaion of the raw geomerty, with this some points can be eliminate.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15345"> 10, //Travel time to this point from the last instructions</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15347"> "200m",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15349"> "NE",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15351"> 22.5</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15603"> ]</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26038">1.)</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_25992">via_points just give the coordinates back of start/end and intermieat points</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26035">via_indices look this: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/1020">https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/1020</a></div>
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<div>2.) I think this you have to calculated by your self.</div>
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<div>regards</div>
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<div>Carsten</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_26256" style="margin:0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 03. Dezember 2014 um 11:04 Uhr<br clear="none">
<b>Von:</b> "S R" <sriram_ott@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
<b>An:</b> "Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM" <osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org><br clear="none">
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [OSRM-talk] Plotting position in time using OSRM</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15308">Hi Carsten</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15310">Many thanks....the link you mention shows the route instructions describe each street and gives the position of the start point, its length, and time in seconds.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15353">This is very helpful.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15333"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15335">Still the documentation is not fully clear (to me).</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15338">Take the example in the link:</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15337"> ["Turn left",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15336"> "High Street",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15341"> 200, <------ 200 m long</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15343"> 4, <------ position (of the starting point on the street?)</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15345"> 10, <------- time to traverse this street?</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15347"> "200m",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15349"> "NE",</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15351"> 22.5</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15324"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15941">My questions are:</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15945">1. What is the lat/long of the starting position on High Street i.e how to convert "4" to lat/long.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_17026"> I think this has to do with via indices and via points in the link you mention, but that seems a bit murky (at least to me). Any clarification would help a lot.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_18441"> What is the difference between via_indices and via_points. Is there a via_point for each point in the route instruction? Can I just use one or the other?</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15947">2. After say 5 seconds of travel on High Street, what would be the lat/long of the new position.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15964">Thanks</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15963">Sriram</div>
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<hr size="1"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Carsten Malchow <carsten64stadt@gmx.de><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 3, 2014 10:43 AM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSRM-talk] Plotting position in time using OSRM</font></div>
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<div>Hi Sriram</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15295"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15293">to reply a part of your question:</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15292">take a look at this documentacion [1]</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15291">The first number is driving directions.</div>
<div>The geomerty is a compressed tring that you have to decompress.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_15282">also discripted in the Link below.</div>
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<div>Kind regards</div>
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<div>Carsten</div>
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<div>[1] <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Output-json">https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Output-json</a></div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 03. Dezember 2014 um 09:58 Uhr<br clear="none">
<b>Von:</b> "S R" <sriram_ott@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
<b>An:</b> "osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org" <osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org><br clear="none">
<b>Betreff:</b> [OSRM-talk] Plotting position in time using OSRM</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5392">I would like to create a simple simulation of a trip using OSRM.</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5390">I believe the steps would be as follows (my questions are in parenthesis below)</div>
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5388">a. Load OSM map of a city into OSRM</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5397">b. Choose a random begin, end location that falls within the city lat/long (how to find lat/long limits of the loaded map?)</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5400">c. Compute the distance (in time) between start, end using OSRM</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5401">d. Also compute a path between start, end using OSRM (are the node vertices mentioned in route the same as in the OSM map?)</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5402">e. The difficult part:</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5403"> -- start the simulation by displaying the map along with position marker (Leaflet?)</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5404"> -- As time progresses, determine the location along the OSRM route computed above (how can this be done?)</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5406"> and adjust the position marker.</div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6764"> </div>
<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6054">An OSRM route looks like this:</div>
<pre id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6055"><span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6767"><span>"</span>route_instructions<span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6766">"</span></span>: [
[
<span><span>"</span>10<span>"</span></span>, <-------------------- what is this id and how to convert it to lat/long
<span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6765"><span>"</span>Schulstraße<span>"</span></span>,
<span>126</span>,
<span>0</span>,
<span>18</span>,
<span><span>"</span>126m<span>"</span></span>,
<span><span>"</span>SE<span>"</span></span>,
<span>116</span>
],
[
<span><span>"</span>7<span>"</span></span>, <---------------- how to find elapsed time to this point from previous one
<span><span>"</span>Am Rahmtor<span>"</span></span>,
<span>57</span>,
<span>2</span>,
<span>11</span>,
<span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_7592"><span>"</span>57m<span>"</span></span>,
<span><span>"</span>NE<span>"</span></span>,
<span>38</span>
]
Given a start and end lat/long, a network distance (time) can be obtained as follows:
<span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6763"><span>"</span>distance_table<span>"</span></span>: [
[
<span>0</span>,
<span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6761">26084</span>
],
[
<span id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_6762">26084</span>,
<span>0</span>
]
This would be useful if the route way-points above could be converted into time units.
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<div id="yiv7905548454yui_3_16_0_1_1417617698788_5409">Would appreciate any help with the above questions,</div>
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