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<p dir="auto">Removing the icon when there are no messages doesn't tell you that there are no messages. It tells you that there are maybe no messages, or that maybe we're not showing the number of messages, just to you for some reason, or at all.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Well, if someone is utterly unfamiliar with interface then showing message icons does not tell you that there are no messages either.</p>
<p dir="auto">It rather tells them that there ARE messages and user needs to learn that only filled message icon tells you that messages are present and regular message icon tells you that there are no messages.</p>
<p dir="auto">This seems worse AND it generates clutter present even if you are familiar with interface.</p><p style="font-size:small;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;color:#666;">—<br />Reply to this email directly, <a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/5757#issuecomment-2724286626">view it on GitHub</a>, or <a href="https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAK2OLKYQT4ZSFUKICOBD6T2UKWURAVCNFSM6AAAAABYQFVAXCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDOMRUGI4DMNRSGY">unsubscribe</a>.<br />You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.<img src="https://github.com/notifications/beacon/AAK2OLKDMVOP74ZZZNJRE3D2UKWURA5CNFSM6AAAAABYQFVAXCWGG33NNVSW45C7OR4XAZNMJFZXG5LFINXW23LFNZ2KUY3PNVWWK3TUL5UWJTVCMFIKE.gif" height="1" width="1" alt="" /><span style="color: transparent; font-size: 0; display: none; visibility: hidden; overflow: hidden; opacity: 0; width: 0; height: 0; max-width: 0; max-height: 0; mso-hide: all">Message ID: <span><openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/5757/2724286626</span><span>@</span><span>github</span><span>.</span><span>com></span></span></p>
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<div style="display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; white-space: pre-wrap; align-items: center; "><img alt="matkoniecz" height="20" width="20" style="border-radius:50%; margin-right: 4px;" decoding="async" src="https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/899988?s=20&v=4" /><strong>matkoniecz</strong> left a comment <a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/5757#issuecomment-2724286626">(openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website#5757)</a></div>
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<p dir="auto">Removing the icon when there are no messages doesn't tell you that there are no messages. It tells you that there are maybe no messages, or that maybe we're not showing the number of messages, just to you for some reason, or at all.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Well, if someone is utterly unfamiliar with interface then showing message icons does not tell you that there are no messages either.</p>
<p dir="auto">It rather tells them that there ARE messages and user needs to learn that only filled message icon tells you that messages are present and regular message icon tells you that there are no messages.</p>
<p dir="auto">This seems worse AND it generates clutter present even if you are familiar with interface.</p>

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