<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Daniel-san and other committee members:<br><br><br></div>In addition,<br></div><div>Mainly, we should discuss on the committee mailing list,<br></div>But, if, when you determine that it is information that should be public, Could you send information to this mailing list?<br>
<div><div><br><div><div>We should share important information to general mappers.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br><br></div><div>from Taichi<br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/13 Taichi Furuhashi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:taichi@osmf.jp" target="_blank">taichi@osmf.jp</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dainel-san and all:<br><br><br></div>Thanks for your comment.<br><br>Yes, I understand.<br>But, you know, <br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"><span>lists.openstreetmap.org</span></a> is full open mailing list.<br>

<br></div>We have to share and discuss about sponsars and other information.<br></div>And also, general mappers don't want read detaild TODOs.<br><div><div><div><br></div><div>We should divide, like <br></div><div><br>

</div><div> <a href="mailto:sotm-asia@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">sotm-asia@openstreetmap.org</a> -> Full open discussing place for SotM Asia<br><br> <a href="mailto:sotm-asia-team@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">sotm-asia-team@googlegroups.com</a> -> Core discussion place for SotM Asia Committee like the <a href="mailto:team@stateofthemap.org" target="_blank">team@stateofthemap.org</a><br>

</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Just now,<br></div><div>I've send invitations of <a href="mailto:sotm-asia-team@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">sotm-asia-team@googlegroups.com</a> to all committee members.<br>
<br></div><div>
All means "<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing</a>".<br>
</div><div>
<br></div><div>Please confirm your mail box.<br><br><br></div><div>If other people want to join to Committee ML, we are welcome.<br></div><div>Please write your name on the members list.<br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing</a><br>

<br><br></div><div>Regards,<br><br><br>from Taichi<br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/13 Daniel Kastl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel@georepublic.de" target="_blank">daniel@georepublic.de</a>></span><br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Furuhashi-san<div><br></div><div>Wouldn't it be better to create a mailing list on <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">lists.openstreetmap.org</a>?</div>

<div>I would prefer not have one list here and one there.</div><span><font color="#888888">

<div><br></div><div>Daniel</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Taichi Furuhashi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:taichi@osmf.jp" target="_blank">taichi@osmf.jp</a>></span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Thanks all:<br><br><br></div><div>I'm back from SotM Birmingham!<br>Just now, I'm making a committee mailing list on the Googlr groups.<br>



</div></div><br></div>wait a moment!!<br>
<br><br></div>from Taichi<br><div><div><br><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/12 Alex Rollin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alex.rollin@gmail.com" target="_blank">alex.rollin@gmail.com</a>></span><br>




<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In Bogor, we will NOT do it this year, we WILL do it Next SOTM ASIA. It is a compromise. We can do it this year, but, Thailand will not back down. The whole initiative is suffering, so, we back down and aim for Indonesia next year.  Full support for Thailand this year.<div>






<br></div><div>My team will join to develop common infrastructure. We may even ask some grants to help with website for sessions from this year and next year, and really hope to do that.</div><div><br></div><div>At this moment I feel it is important to work on what can be done for Thailand.  I am resigned to see through a transition to a more formal process for SOTM Asia in general.</div>






<div><br></div><div>I sense that Thailand has potential to prototype some re-usable infrastructure for next SOTM Asia. Regarding revenue, that is a discussion for a leadership group, and should be couched in longer term thinking.  This discussion seems to be about short term. SO, better left for a different thread.</div>






</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>--<br>Alex</div><div><div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Sarawut Ninsawat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sarawut.ait@gmail.com" target="_blank">sarawut.ait@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







  
    
  
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    <div>Hi,<br>
      <br>
      In last two months, I thought that the decision were made for
      Bogor. However, I were wrong.<br>
      <br>
      My answer for Daniel is "We want to do it" Even it will make a
      difficult situation since there is no proper way in SoTM Asia for
      its. However, it is a good starting point to establish a proper
      way for future situation. I would strongly support with Taichi to
      forming a formal committee.<br>
      <br>
      Also, we need to clarify from last discussion issues on ticket
      fee/benefit and so on to make clear. what to do with the money. I
      would support idea as it is a risk of organizer then they must
      get/lost its.<br>
      <br>
      From my side, there is no more progress after proposal in the wiki
      since there is no final decision yet. I can revise the proposal if
      we know more criteria for venue selection.<br>
      <br>
      Regards<br>
      <br>
      Sarawut<div><div><br>
      <br>
      On 12/9/2556 9:39, fabian wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>
              <div>
                <div>Hi,<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                I would like to help organize SotM. I've been waiting
                for a decision on the venue for a long time.<br>
                <br>
                I have no problem with either venue. Although I would
                prefer Thailand, but looking at how much delay the venue
                selection have cause, I'll go with which ever venue that
                had the most progress.<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              Can we list the progress of the both venue and choose
              based on that?<br>
              <br>
              <br>
            </div>
            Regards,<br>
            Fabian<br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <div>
                <div>On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Daniel
                  Kastl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel@georepublic.de" target="_blank">daniel@georepublic.de</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I'm trying to provide a short summary of the
                        recent posts:</div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <ul>
                            <li>Daniel proposes to have SotM Asia 2013
                              in Indonesia</li>
                            <li>Taichi and Kate propose to have SotM
                              Asia 2013 in Thailand</li>
                            <li>Alex proposes a committee for the next
                              years</li>
                          </ul>
                          Looking at the Wiki page (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing</a>) and
                          the names listed there, there are 13 people
                          listed, but roughly half of them haven't
                          shared their opinion on SotM Asia 2013 yet ;-)</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>About SotM Asia 2013 I see now these
                          possibilities:</div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <ol>
                              <li>Bangkok says "we will do it" and Bogor
                                says "we won't do it this year" ->
                                easy decision<br>
                              </li>
                              <li>
                                Bangkok says "we won't do it this year"
                                and Bogor says "we will do it" ->
                                easy decision</li>
                              <li>Bangkok says "we will do it" and Bogor
                                says "we will do it" -> same
                                difficult situation as before</li>
                              <li>Bangkok says "we won't do it this
                                year" and Bogor says "we won't do it
                                this year" -> there won't be a SotM
                                Asia 2013</li>
                            </ol>
                            <div>Would it be OK to get some
                              "unambiguous" statement from both
                              candidates? ;-)</div>
                          </div>
                          <div>I haven't heard from Bangkok for quite
                            some time, and while my first impression was
                            that there will be a SotM event in Bogor
                            anyway, I'm now not sure anymore.</div>
                           </div>
                        <div>Daniel</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at
                        10:22 AM, Taichi Furuhashi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:taichi@osmf.jp" target="_blank">taichi@osmf.jp</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>Hi Alex and all:<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Thanks for your comment.<br>
                            </div>
                            <br>
                            Yes, I think so.<br>
                            We should form executive committee of SotM
                            Asia.<br>
                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Main members are below list.<br>
                              </div>
                              <div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing</a><br>







                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra">If other people
                              want to work us, please add your name on
                              the wiki.<br>
                              And next step, we have to make new closed
                              mailing list for committee.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra">Should we make <a href="mailto:sotm-asia-team@groups.google.com" target="_blank">sotm-asia-team@groups.google.com</a>
                              ?<br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra">Regards,<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra">from Taichi<br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                2013/9/7 Alex Rollin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alex.rollin@gmail.com" target="_blank">alex.rollin@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>I wonder if we should form
                                          a committee of those active on
                                          the list in the last couple of
                                          months to take the issue
                                          further.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Discussion?</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>--<br>
                                          Alex</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
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## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: <a href="tel:070-6401-5963" value="+817064015963" target="_blank">070-6401-5963</a> / <a href="http://about.me/mapconcierge" target="_blank">http://about.me/mapconcierge</a><br>## URL/Mail: <a href="http://www.mapconcierge.jp/" target="_blank">http://www.mapconcierge.jp</a> <a href="mailto:taichi@mapconcierge.jp" target="_blank">taichi@mapconcierge.jp</a><br>





## GPS/GigaPan/UAV Shop: <a href="http://gpsconcierge.jp/" target="_blank">http://gpsconcierge.jp</a>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>## Taichi FURUHASHI(MAPconcierge Inc. President)<br>## MAPconcierge satellite office at <a href="http://goo.gl/VgWD6" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/VgWD6</a> in NOMAD NEW'SBASE<br>


## Vice-President of OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan with <a href="http://sinsai.info/" target="_blank">sinsai.info</a> project<br>## Director of the OSGeo Foundation Japan<br>## Researcher of the center for spatial info. science, univ.of Tokyo<br>


## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: 070-6401-5963 / <a href="http://about.me/mapconcierge" target="_blank">http://about.me/mapconcierge</a><br>## URL/Mail: <a href="http://www.mapconcierge.jp/" target="_blank">http://www.mapconcierge.jp</a> <a href="mailto:taichi@mapconcierge.jp" target="_blank">taichi@mapconcierge.jp</a><br>


## GPS/GigaPan/UAV Shop: <a href="http://gpsconcierge.jp/" target="_blank">http://gpsconcierge.jp</a>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>## Taichi FURUHASHI(MAPconcierge Inc. President)<br>## MAPconcierge satellite office at <a href="http://goo.gl/VgWD6" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/VgWD6</a> in NOMAD NEW'SBASE<br>

## Vice-President of OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan with <a href="http://sinsai.info/" target="_blank">sinsai.info</a> project<br>## Director of the OSGeo Foundation Japan<br>## Researcher of the center for spatial info. science, univ.of Tokyo<br>

## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: 070-6401-5963 / <a href="http://about.me/mapconcierge" target="_blank">http://about.me/mapconcierge</a><br>## URL/Mail: <a href="http://www.mapconcierge.jp/" target="_blank">http://www.mapconcierge.jp</a> <a href="mailto:taichi@mapconcierge.jp" target="_blank">taichi@mapconcierge.jp</a><br>

## GPS/GigaPan/UAV Shop: <a href="http://gpsconcierge.jp/" target="_blank">http://gpsconcierge.jp</a>
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