<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I agree there are too many lists ... it's become too hard to connect to other mappers. </span></div><div><span>But I don't think the answer is to remove them, rather rearchitect how we communicate.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I wrote up some sketchy ideas:</span></div><div><span><a href="http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773">http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773</a><br></span></div><div> </div><div>-Mikel</div><div><br></div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Kate Chapman <kate@maploser.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Richard Weait <richard@weait.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> strategic@openstreetmap.org; moderators@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 16, 2012 2:00 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Strategic] Too many lists?<br> </font> </div> <br>
Hi Richard,<br><br>I think it is okay to have country specific lists.<br><br>Sure the tagging shouldn't be country specific, but there are meet-ups<br>and other things that are specific to areas. I think enough people<br>subscribe to those lists to keep people aware of tagging situations<br>and that there is for example a tagging list.<br><br>Otherwise should all lists be by language? I think there would be<br>disagreement in having all the Spanish or French language lists<br>together as well.<br><br>There is going to be some level of regionalization no matter what and<br>I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. To go academic geographer<br>for a moment we can think of Tobler's First law (1) "Everything is<br>related to everything else, but near things are more related than<br>distant things." Maybe talk-ca and talk-us have more in common than<br>talk-au for example.<br><br>-Kate<br><br>(1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobler's_first_law_of_geography<br><br>On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Richard Weait <<a ymailto="mailto:richard@weait.com" href="mailto:richard@weait.com">richard@weait.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I suggest that we have too many English, general purpose lists. I<br>> think that we could easily roll talk-ca@, talk-us@ and talk-au@ into<br>> talk@ without harming any of those communities. None of the country<br>> lists have enough traffic to cause a problem by overwhelming talk@<br>><br>> On the other hand, I think that the three country lists harm the<br>> overall community by allowing Balkanization of community, tagging and<br>> mapping. I think that there is too little to distinguish the<br>> communities to require distinct lists, and allowing the groups to<br>> splinter and diverge is harmful. As an example, it is better to have<br>> cycle-mappers in US be aware of
cycle mapping challenges in AU and CA,<br>> rather than to believe that a unique US tagging scheme is required.<br>><br>> It might also be reasonable to roll the talk-gb and talk-ie etc, lists<br>> back into talk@ as well, but I have no history with those lists.<br>><br>> In short, lists should be created based on demand, and then collapsed<br>> when the demand abates. It's time to move en-talk back to talk.<br>><br>> Just my thoughts. How about you?<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Strategic mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Strategic@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:Strategic@openstreetmap.org">Strategic@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/strategic<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>moderators mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:moderators@openstreetmap.org"
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