On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Steve Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevagewp@gmail.com">stevagewp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Anthony <<a href="mailto:osm@inbox.org">osm@inbox.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> *Sigh*. I'll bite. What would be a fence which is a barrier to one, but<br>
> not to the other? You know barrier doesn't mean "impenetrable", right?<br>
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</div>Well a series of boulders is a barrier to vehicles, but not even<br>
noticeable to pedestrians.<br></blockquote><div><br>But it isn't a fence.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">> Yes, you are. And presumably certain types of barriers have different<br>
> defaults. But a fence which allows access?<br>
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</div>Sure, like fences around golf driving ranges that protect people<br>
outside from golf balls, but might have gaps.<br></blockquote><div><br>Not sure I'd call that a fence, and even less sure I'd call it a barrier=fence. I don't know, though.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">>> Oh, and add barrier=barricade, for a low anti-car obstruction.<br>
>> (barrier=roadblock? I'm thinking of these barriers you often see around<br>
>> parks here, two vertical poles with a long vertical pole bolted across,<br>
>> about knee height. Usually treated pine.)<br>
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> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dcycle_barrier" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dcycle_barrier</a> ?<br>
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</div>Pretty similar - but poorly named for this instance.</blockquote><div><br>Most OSM tags are poorly named for a lot of instances. Personally, I've learned to treat them like terms in a foreign language.<br> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The barriers I'm<br>
thinking of have to do with bicycles - they keep cars out of<br>
pedestrian areas.<br></blockquote><div><br>That's specifically addressed on that web page.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Incidentally, I notice that the definitions of "bicycle=yes",<br>
"bicycle=no" on that page conflict with what has been said elsewhere<br>
on this thread - they define practical access, not legal access.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yep. Fortunately, there aren't too many ways which use both highway=* and barrier=*.</div></div><br>