Jan,<div><br></div><div>Great to hear from you. This is my first time through the process as well. I spent some time going through the wiki to learn more about proposals and a key part is mailing a Request for Comments (RFC) to the OSM tagging mailing list: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>. I've cc'd them on this email so that the broader OSM can chime in. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">This is how I got feedback on the Homeless Shelter feature.</span></div>
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</span></div><div>I really like a more general tag to describe buildings and land that primarily serves others in need. I'll gladly help with moving the proposal forward. </div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">I prefer facility over "service" and "centre" as it hits at the true meaning of a building that facilitates a service. Also, In the US, a social center/centre is more recreational. </span></font></div>
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> What do you think about tagging like this:<br>> amenity=social_facility<br>> social_facility=nursing (instead of service)<br>> social_facility:for=senior (instead of care_for)<br></span></span></font><br></div>
<div>I'm not very experienced with tagging style, but I normally prefer more descriptive keys. Using service=nursing make it very clear that you are talking at the specific service that this amenity provides and lends itself better to multiple values.</div>
<div><br></div><div>What is the general guidance from the OSM community on descriptive tags?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Sean</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 02:11, kerosin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m-132217-aab8b4@messages.openstreetmap.org">m-132217-aab8b4@messages.openstreetmap.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Sean Horgan,<br>
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kerosin has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject Re: social facility:<br>
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Hey Sean,<br>
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I just had the idea to create a tag that is a bit more general. As you might know there are some more proposals that overlap with the tag "social facility":<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Orphanage" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Orphanage</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Residential_home" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Residential_home</a><br>
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I just made this proposal to initiate a discussion about a general tag ;)<br>
At the moment I'm not actively working on this proposal, but I would like to put more efforts in it! You're the first person that gives me feedback. I'm not very experienced in Wiki-Systems so I wasn't sure how to create a vote for a proposal. Of course emergency-shelters are a good thing to add! But first the proposal needs a rework.<br>
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What do you think about tagging like this:<br>
amenity=social_facility<br>
social_facility=nursing (instead of service)<br>
social_facility:for=senior (instead of care_for)<br>
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maybe you as a native english speaker could say something about the term "social facility" in general. Would "social institution", "social centre" or "social service" be better?<br>
Thank for your support!<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Jan (aka kerosin)<br>
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P.S. I will add a german translation of the proposal<br>
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You can also read the message at <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/132217" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/132217</a><br>
and you can reply at <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/132217" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/132217</a><br>
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