Here's an example of the same type of sign in Australia<div><br></div><div><a href="http://goo.gl/maps/Pao1">http://goo.gl/maps/Pao1</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Stephen</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 2 June 2012 05:20, Philip Barnes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phil@trigpoint.me.uk" target="_blank">phil@trigpoint.me.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 19:02 +0200, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote:<br>
> Am 01.06.2012 um 15:01 schrieb Colin Smale <<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl">colin.smale@xs4all.nl</a>>:<br>
><br>
> > On 01/06/2012 14:19, Jason Cunningham wrote:<br>
> > > On 1 June 2012 08:09, Martin Vonwald <<a href="mailto:imagic.osm@gmail.com">imagic.osm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > But we have to make sure, that this values are only<br>
> > > applied if real<br>
> > > indications (e.g. signposts) are present and not e.g. if<br>
> > > one just<br>
> > > thinks that some vehicle can not drive there.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The example given is within the UK. Within the UK signs or<br>
> > > signposts haver no 'status' unless they're listed within official<br>
> > > documents and linked to legislation. I am confident this<br>
> > > "unsuitable for HGVs" sign has no legislative status. It's<br>
> > > existence may be due to local residents asking their local<br>
> > > politician to find a way to 'stop' HGV's following satnavs down<br>
> > > this road because the noise reduces they're enjoyment of their<br>
> > > evening cocktails (Very unlikely, but a possibility). Therefore<br>
> > > it's more than possible that an 'unsuitable status sign' may refer<br>
> > > to a road that is very suitable. People or business will place<br>
> > > signs adjacent to UK roads in rural areas which attempt to alter<br>
> > > the actions of drivers, and we should not map these.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > And if these signs are placed by the highway authority? I think<br>
> > these most definitely do have a place in OSM. It's then up to the<br>
> > data consumers whether they attach any value to them. By making the<br>
> > data available, we are enabling e.g. HGV routing programs to take<br>
> > these hints into account. Without these hints, trucks may be<br>
> > directed down "unsuitable" routes. The political process leading to<br>
> > their erection is not important - only their existence. Political<br>
> > pressure has a large influence on speed limits as well.<br>
><br>
><br>
> You are both correct in my opinion. As I wrote earlier this doesn't<br>
> "feel" like something that belongs into an access tag to me especially<br>
> as you are still allowed to use that specific way. But if those signs<br>
> have some official character they should have a place in OSM. What do<br>
> you think about using some other key for this?<br>
><br>
</div></div>The blue 'Unsuitable for HGVS' and 'Unsuitable for Motors' signs are<br>
placed by the highway authority, i.e. local councils, which maintain all<br>
UK roads except for Trunk roads and Motorways.<br>
<br>
They do not prohibit vehicles from using the roads, and certainly with<br>
the 'Unsuitable for Motors' usability will depend on all sorts of<br>
things, such as type of vehicle, ground clearance, skill of the driver,<br>
the weather and recent weather. A 4x4 will usually be ok, and a low<br>
ground clearance Ferrari will struggle with many roads a normal car will<br>
clear easily. But I can think of at least one that is probably there so<br>
noisy cars don't spoil the summer cocktails as I can see nothing along<br>
that (single track road) that makes it unsuitable or in any way<br>
difficult, or any more difficult than any of the others in this area.<br>
<br>
Phil<br>
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