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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Up to the usual standards one has come
      to expect from these large international organisations, I would
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      On 19/06/2012 13:20, Philip Barnes wrote:<br>
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            style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">"There is no
            ferry between Kingston upon Hull and Esbjerg. An alternative
            ferry is available from Harwich (350 km/220 mi from Kingston
            upon Hull) to Esbjerg".</span></p>
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            style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">A well thought
            out route?</span></p>
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            style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">Phil<br>
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        <p>On 19/06/2012 11:46 Colin Smale wrote:<br>
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          Strictly speaking the international E-numbers are routes, not
          roads. The <br>
          European Route Network is overlaid on top of the national
          networks and <br>
          doesn't bother about international boundaries. In Belgium
          however it is <br>
          very common to use the E-route numbers on signs instead of any
          local <br>
          A-number where a motorway is part of the ERN. In this case I
          would say <br>
          that int_ref and ref should have the same value - ref should
          be used for <br>
          what's on the signs. If the motorway has an underlying
          A-number (purely <br>
          for administrative purposes) then this might fit in nat_ref.<br>
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          In the UK, the E-numbers are not signed at all, but there are
          ERN routes <br>
          there. For example the E20: <br>
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          which runs from Ireland <br>
          to Russia.<br>
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          Colin<br>
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          On 19/06/2012 11:06, Martin Vonwald wrote:<br>
          > The reason why I'm asking is the SS3bis/E45 in Italy:<br>
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          > It is the first road I've seen where the ref tag contains
          the<br>
          > international ref and not the national ref (besides
          int_ref and<br>
          > nat_ref).<br>
          ><br>
          > Martin<br>
          ><br>
          > 2012/6/19 Martin Koppenhoefer <<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
          >> +1,<br>
          >> I'd put the national ref in "ref" and the
          international ref in "int_ref".<br>
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