Hi!<br><br>We have taken a few days of discussion with key <b>«Obstacle»</b> (it derives from «Difficult_Passability»... I have tried to answer all questions and I have been added the proposals. I apologize if in any case it has not been:<br>
<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Obstacle">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Obstacle</a><br><br>Do you think that something isn't right or need more revisions? <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">There are some inconsistencies?</span><span class="hps alt-edited"> More suggestions or doubts?<br>
</span></span>I think that the page needs to be cleaned, but all seems me important...<br>Any suggestions?<br><br>Thanks a lot! (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">and thanks for the</span> <span class="hps">comments received</span></span>)<br>
<br>ALBERT<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/14 Konfrare Albert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lakonfrariadelavila@gmail.com" target="_blank">lakonfrariadelavila@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi John!<br><br>I like the problem that you proposed ;)<br><br>I'm thinking in a very hard condition...<br>I propose different solutions:<br><ol><li>First, you must evaluate the obstacles. Probably one will be better for pass. For example, the heap permites the pass to pedestrians but the hole is difficult to cross it. More landslides could be occured. In this case I propose to use:</li>
<ul><li>NODE or WAY with tags:</li></ul><ul><ul><li>obstacle=hole</li><li>obstacle:bicycle=heap</li><li>hazard_prone=yes</li><li>hazard_type=landslide</li><li>(optionally) obstacle_description: Landslide with heaps and holes, and more landslides risk.</li>
</ul></ul><li>Other option (not the best) would be use two nodes (In this example, I use the generic «obstacle», that represents impediment for pedestrians). The nodes must be over the highway, therefore one will be first and the other last:</li>
<ul><li>1st NODE with tags:</li><ul><li>obstacle=hole</li></ul><li>2n NODE with tags:</li><ul><li>obstacle=heap</li></ul><li>Chunk of way affected:</li><ul><li>hazard_prone=yes</li><li>hazard_type=landslide</li></ul></ul>
<li>Other option (the bad, for me) could be:</li><ul><li>NODE or WAY with tags:</li><ul><li>obstacle=yes</li><li>obstacle_description= Landslide with heaps and holes, and more landslides risk.</li><li>hazard_prone=yes</li>
<li>hazard_type=landslide</li></ul></ul></ol>If there isn't risk of more landslides, you must omit the «hazard» tags.<br><br>If only there is risk of landslide that not occured, there aren't objective obstacles in the trail, only a warning. In this case, I propose to use:<br>
<ul style="margin-left:40px"><li>NODE or WAY with the tags:</li><ul><li>hazard_prone=yes</li><li>hazard_type=landslide<br></li></ul></ul> <div><div dir="ltr" style="zoom:1"><span lang="en"><span>I hope I have</span> <span>answered your</span> <span>question ;)<br>
Thanks and regards!<br><br>PD: This mail will be sticked to the discussion page.<br><br>ALBERT<br><br></span></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/14 John F. Eldredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com" target="_blank">john@jfeldredge.com</a>></span><div>
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Would the same landslide tag be used both where part of the hill above the road had slid into the road, and where part of the road had slid downhill, leaving a hole?<br>
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Also, how would you tag a point where cracks had started to appear, but the full-scale landslide hadn't happened yet?<br>
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