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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/20/12 3:59 PM, Richard Welty
wrote:<br>
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i think we need a separate emergency access category because there
exist places where authorized
<br>
vehicles, mostly emergency responders of one type or another,<br>
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does anyone else who is not a troll have any comments?<br>
<br>
my engagement with anthony has i think resulted in some
improvements.<br>
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First, i've learned that when we tag U-turns as access=no or
access=private, we're<br>
probably doing it wrong, and tagging them as access=emergency is a
band aid, not<br>
a fix. we should probably allow it as a band aid, but see about
switching to a<br>
different approach.<br>
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specifically, no U-turn is the common signage in many jurisdictions,
and that's a<br>
turn restriction, not an access restriction. in a perfect world,
that's how we'd have<br>
tagged all of these.<br>
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the actual language in the NYS vehicle code (Article 23, section
1104) is this:<br>
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<meta charset="utf-8"> 4. Disregard regulations governing directions of movement or turning
in specified directions.
this has nothing to do with ignoring access=no or access=private, and everything
to do with ignoring turn restrictions and oneway indications when responding
to an emergency.
so my suggestion is:
access=emergency
for u-turns that are currently frequently marked private or no, as a temporary
expedient, and recommend in the section of the access page moving to no u-turn
turn restrictions in the long term.
i also recommend that access=emergency tags be deployed in association with
source:access tags that give the authority, e.g.
source:access=NYS VAT Article 23 Section 1104 (b) 4.
richard
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