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<div class="gmail_quote">Georg Feddern
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:osm@bavarianmallet.de"><osm@bavarianmallet.de></a> wrote:
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<pre class="k9mail">Am 07.10.2013 19:13, schrieb Richard Welty:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">On 10/7/13 1:08 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">I remember seeing such a "cyclists must dismount" on the narrow
footway of a bridge over the James River, in Richmond, Virginia, USA.
Not only was the footway narrow, [...]
</blockquote>there's a cyclists must dismount sign for the footway along the Dunn
Bridge between Albany and Rensselaer NY.</blockquote>
well, if it is tagged as highway=footway you already have to dismount -
otherwise it would be tagged as highway=cycleway.
So where is the need for a bicycle=dismount here?
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you're making an assumption about tagging of ways that may not apply
generally.<br>
in some parts of the US, we have true multi-use paths where
pedestrians and<br>
cyclists are considered equal users. those are frequently tagged
highway=path<br>
with access tags to denote the types of uses that are permitted.<br>
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for the two bridges i mentioned in the Albany NY area, both are
connected to<br>
the multi-use path network along the river and in OSM they're
currently tagged<br>
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highway=path/foot=yes/bicycle=dismount<br>
<br>
which accurately reflects the signage and legal usage.<br>
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if we create tagging schemes where you need to know the whole
footway<br>
= dismounted cyclist scheme, then you will end up with mistagging by
those<br>
who aren't aware of the distinction. we are better off, i think, if
the tagging<br>
maps in an obvious way to the signs we see.<br>
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richard<br>
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