<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
So these two roads you'd consider the same?:<br>
<a href="http://www.malenki.ch/Touren/11/Galerie/Tag_20/slide_19.html" target="_blank">http://www.malenki.ch/Touren/11/Galerie/Tag_20/slide_19.html</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Based on the agreed practice in Brazil, I would tag this one either as highway=unclassified or highway=track, depending on how much this is in use and what it connects (I cannot determine this from pictures alone) with surface=dirt or surface=ground.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The problem is that from most current rendering styles you can not distinguish a highway=unclassified with surface=paved from one with surface=unpaved, and this is causing us a lot of problems here in Brazil.</div>
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<a href="http://www.malenki.ch/Touren/11/Galerie/Tag_22/slide_34.html" target="_blank">http://www.malenki.ch/Touren/11/Galerie/Tag_22/slide_34.html</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would probably tag this as highway=tertiary (it seems an important road, large enough to be passable by two cars) with surface=gravel or surface=ground. Again, apart from the Humanitarian rendering style, there is no way to see the difference between a highway=tertiary with surface=unpaved from one with surface=paved.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is the reason I am saying that rendering paved differently from unpaved would be a huge improvement and would address most of our concerns. Agreed, it would not solve everything, but it would be a huge step forward compared to the present situation.</div>
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> Finally, I can assure you, from my own driving experience, that<br>
> surface=compacted should be considered unpaved for all practical<br>
> purposes.<br>
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</div>I disagree here, too. Though compacted is not as good as asphalt, it<br>
is much better then an unpaved way with surface=dirt.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>It seems that we do not have the same concept of what surface=compacted actually means. This is the reason I am suggesting a complementary tag surface:sealed=yes or perhaps surface:stable=yes to differentiate the different situations. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I can assure you that after a few weeks of non-stop torrential rain no surface stays compacted (at least not here in Brazil).</div></div>
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