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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I definitely think there is a need for
this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply
to. <br>
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landuse=events is better than leisure=*<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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On 09/03/2014 21:31, Tod Fitch wrote:<br>
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type="cite">It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most
of the places called fairgrounds where I am are used for other
events other than the traditional once a year fair. There are
often swap meets, animal shows, concerts, and other events held
during the year. And the area often (always in my experience but
I've not seen many) have amenities on the grounds like toilets,
food concessions, etc.
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<div>Using event_space or event_place seems odd to me: And area
already denotes a space or place. We don't say residential_place
or industrial_place in our tags, so my preference would be for
landuse=events.<br>
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<div>On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Antônio Marcos wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I've never heard of "fairground", but it
seems to be a quite specific tag that could be substituted
by or even inside the events area. The events tag is
indeed supposed to be generic, just like landuse=retail,
which demarks areas used by shops, and the leisure or
landuse key before the "events" value should denote that
it is an area where events are carried on (like the ones
you cited, circus, shows etc.). Maybe, if the area hosts a
single type of event, it is considerable to create too an
event_type= key that describes the type of event. I am
considering changing back the key leisure to landuse, as
it originally was supposed to be, because it is a land
used for this purpose and may contain facilities
(amenities and leisures) used during the events, such as
pitches, toilets, bars and so on. An example of an area
like this is a very famous rodeo place here in Brazil
called Parque do Peão: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://binged.it/1h4EgcT">http://binged.it/1h4EgcT</a>.
As you can see, there is an entire area used for it, where
fairs are made and several amenities for the public are
found: the rodeo event is not comprised only of the rodeo
show made in the arena. And there are many other
event-designated places in the world, I believe, thus I
think OpenStreetMap is really lacking this kind of
tagging. Back to the leisure/landuse discussion, stated
some points above I think landuse fits better than leisure
and I'd like some more opinions on this matter, please,
before changing it back to landuse=events. If there needs
any other improvement on this tag, please comment. Thanks.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:49 PM,
Martin Koppenhoefer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">I have created this proposal
some time ago for a new tag called
leisure=events (originally
landuse=events), which should describe
areas reserved for events in a city or in
a place (more info at the proposal page <a
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href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents</a>). <span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Does anybody have
more opinions and suggestions on this,
please?</span></div>
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I think "event" is not a good description for a
place where events take place, something like
event_space / event_place would already be better,
but still seems very generic. What kind of events
do you have in mind, folk festivals? parish fairs?
trade fairs? concerts? beer festivals? just to
name a few.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">For these maybe
"fairground" would be a good tag (not sure for
leisure as a key, maybe use a neutral "amenity"?)<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">cheers,<br>
Martin<br>
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