<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>To me, Amenity=onsen is similar to amenity=townhall.</div><div><br></div><div>for many onsen, there is no particular room you would say is " the onsen," just like no particular room is the "townhall", It is the title of the facility itself.. The purpose of the facility becomes it's name. </div><div><br></div><div>There might be some small facilities where a certain building is "the onsen", or there is a separation between the shower/prep areas and the actual bathing area, or like a Hotel with a public onsen indoors, and and separate, outdoor bath(s) outside. </div><div><br></div><div>Tag the amenity on the landuse for the hotel, or tag the amenity onto the hotel building with :outdoor=no, and :outdoor=yes on the actual outdoor bath building/pool. </div><div><br></div><div>Same thing would go for a sauna. If the building itself is "bob's sauna" - the obviously tag the building or landuse. if only part of the area can be defined as "the sauna" - when the facility's purpose isn't to be a sauna, like a hotel complex or something, then just tag the sauna area by itself, right? </div><div><br></div><div>Javbw</div><br><div><div>On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Satoshi IIDA <<a href="mailto:nyampire@gmail.com">nyampire@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><br>> not sure but usually the sauna in public baths is somewhat separated so<br>
> we might as well tag part of the object as sauna.<br><br></div>Yes, this is a very difficult point. I also could not define which is better.<br></div><div>Maybe depending on the situation and country.<br></div><br>But from Japanese view, Onsen's main feature is as "public_bath" and <br>
</div>the type of bath is the sub category.<br></div><div>(and from operator's view, it is easier to make query :) )<br></div><div><br></div>If the facility announces they are "XXX's sauna" or given name, and they are not onsen amenity,<br>
<div><div>it is better to tag them as "amenity=sauna" even in Japan.<br></div><div><br><br><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-10 17:23 GMT+09:00 Richard Z. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ricoz.osm@gmail.com" target="_blank">ricoz.osm@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 01:44:30PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote:<br>
> > John<br>
> > some onsen are not associated with hot springs, but have hot sand instead.<br>
> Yes, but they are rare case.<br>
> Most of onsen are hot water bath.<br>
> So might be represented by adding following sub_tags.<br>
><br>
> bath:sand_bath=[yes|no] ; if the bathing amenity is sand bath (Suna_yu) or<br>
> not.<br>
<br>
</div>that reminds me we also have hay_bath in the Alps, so that would also<br>
fit into it and may be helpful for other cases too.<br>
<div class=""><br>
> bath:sauna=[yes|no] ; if the bathing amenity has sauna facility. (Use<br>
> it when the main function of the amenity is public_bath. consider using<br>
> "amenity=sauna" when the main purpose of the amenity is sauna)<br>
<br>
</div>not sure but usually the sauna in public baths is somewhat separated so<br>
we might as well tag part of the object as sauna.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Richard<br>
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