<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><br></div>We have not had very much response on the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sideway">new proposal</a>. That could mean that most think it is OK (hopefully) but that could also be whishfull thinking ;-) On <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/use_sideway">talk </a>Pieren proposed to make the proposal shorter and focus on bicycles. We followed his advice. On the <a href="http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=408025#p408025">NL forum</a> there was some discussion on the name of the tag. There was an argument that "use_sideway" is a wrong name for the tag because sideway is not a proper English word and does not reflect our goal. "use_adjacent_way" was proposed as an alternative or even the old "use_cycleway " Any more opinions on this?<br>
<br></div>This is also an invitation to those that will oppose the proposal to give us some hints on what they like to see changed in the proposal.<br><br></div><br></div>Cheers.<br><br></div>PeeWee32<br><div><div><div><div>
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Date: 2014-03-21 8:26 GMT+01:00<br>Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - use_sideway (was bicycle=use_cycleway)<br>To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>We followed Pieren's advice on the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/use_sideway" target="_blank">Talk page</a> and made the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sideway" target="_blank">proposal </a>much shorter. This focuses on making clear what the proposal is and not so much on our arguments. For those that are interested in our arguments we've made a <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sideway_arguments" target="_blank">sub page</a> including our comment on last proposal. Hope this helps.<br>
<br></div>With regard to Matthijs his question I can say that in yesterday's newspaper (algemeen dagblad) I read that NL has 35.000 KM of cycleways. <br><br></div><div>Not sure why Matthijs qoute's the "no backward compatibility to the existing bicycle=no (in e.g. NL)" . We've commented on that in the proposal (which has moved to the subpage)<br>
</div><div><br></div>Cheers<br><br></div>PeeWee32<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-17 0:07 GMT+01:00 Matthijs Melissen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@matthijsmelissen.nl" target="_blank">info@matthijsmelissen.nl</a>></span>:<div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On 16 March 2014 17:34, Pee Wee <<a href="mailto:piewie32@gmail.com" target="_blank">piewie32@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Last november we proposed the "bicycle=use_cycleway". There was a lot of<br>
> discussion before and during voting. The voting was very close but we<br>
> decided to reject the proposal and work on a new one.<br>
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</div>| no backward compatibility to the existing bicycle=no (in e.g. NL)<br>
<br>
Just curious: can anyone find out how many percent of the ways with<br>
highway=cyclepath are located in the Netherlands? It seems Tagwatch<br>
doesn't exist anymore, so I don't really know how to get these data.<br>
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-- Matthijs<br>
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