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Yes, I agree.<br>
That recommendation was introduced yesterday by Pieren [1]. I
strongly oppose that.<br>
The wiki is not for documenting Tagging-trends, but for documenting
best practices. And I would say, that tagging noexit=yes on ways is
not a best practice.<br>
In my opinion an acceptable comment in the Wiki about tagging
noexit=yes on ways would be "In the past this tag was used on ways
very often (~40%). But because this tagging has several
disadvantages, you should rather tag noexit=yes on nodes.".<br>
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Cheers<br>
Florian<br>
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[1]:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Anoexit&diff=1015025&oldid=1014495">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Anoexit&diff=1015025&oldid=1014495</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 10.04.2014 14:51, schrieb John
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If it's not useful to use it on ways, then I don't think we
should recommend it on nodes <i>or ways</i> on the wiki page
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In fact, we should recommend against putting on ways.<br>
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<li>noexit cannot be used on ways
because that does not show what end
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<div>eeh, what "what end" ? Either the highway
line is linked to another highway at both
ends, then "noexit" is a tagging mistake. Or
the highway line is not linked to another
highway on both ends and then the "noexit" can
be helpful (confirming tha'ts really an
isolated highway and not some connection
missing)<br>
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??? Let's explain in details. We let alone the Xmas trees.<br>
Assuming real noexit, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">the typical cases</a> <b>look like</b>
two normal junctions at each way end but one of them <b>is
in fact </b>a dead end.<br>
Why would we tag noexit on the way and request the
beholder to zoom in each end to determine which is dead if
we can tag the information clearly on the end node? What
about T shaped ways where the top way contains 2 dead
ends? "gotcha, there were 2"?<br>
Now, instead of a vertical bar, what about a small (or
larger) mesh like <i>rue Grétry</i>: are we going to tag
as dead ends all the segments of the mesh up to the normal
junction even if they're not directly related with a dead
end? And, BTW, are we speaking (in Subject:) of ways or
of roads? Must we apply noexit=yes to both ways of the
same road when we split one? How would the brave
contributor splitting a way cope with that if he hasn't
got the faintest notion of what noexit is (no blame on
him!)?<br>
These are [probably a part of] the questions that raise
and should be settled and that no one advocating noexit on
ways mentioned.<br>
Frankly, noexit on nodes (as designed) is much more
logical and simple (than on ways, of course).<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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