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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-06-04 19:05, Peter Wendorff
wrote :<br>
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<pre wrap=""><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Am 04.06.2014 18:43, schrieb Andrew Hain:
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Over the past few days there have been a number of wiki edits (mainly but
not entirely in German) stating that shop=* and similar tags, contrary to
the “One feature, one OSM element” principle [1], should only ever be put
on nodes and not on building polygons. I’ve commented on an affected talk
page without any response.
Is there any justification for these edits?</pre></blockquote></blockquote></pre>
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Greetings from noexit=yes ;-)<br>
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<pre wrap=""><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element</a>
</pre></blockquote></blockquote>Hi,
I don't see justification to edit it widely in the wiki without prior
discussion, but I oppose your interpretation of this conflicting with
the "one feature, one osm element" principle.
In fact a shop is a different entity than a building.</pre>
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Exactly, this and below, my POV.<br>
I even say more: that a shop is an activity more than an object.<br>
Just as an amenity, it takes place in a building or part of it.<br>
But it can be in open air.<br>
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building=yes<br>
shop:fishing=yes<br>
shop:fishing:rod:rental=yes<br>
shop.fish=no<br>
hotel=yes<br>
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I find those constructs very understandable and, most importantly,
prone to be imagined the same way by different people<br>
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The wiki should classify keys as objects or attributes.<br>
There is a single object per OSM element (node, way, polygon,
relation)<br>
and it can have many attributes.<br>
shop is an attribute of building (implicitly building:shop)<br>
fishing is an attribute of shop (as it can be of wharf if my English
is correct)<br>
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Some claimed that the object could be a street number.<br>
I must say that I never saw a number represented by a rectangle.<br>
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<pre wrap="">A shop can move to another building while staying the same shop. A shop
can close and therefore vanish without the building to vanish, and a new
shop, cafe, restaurant or whatever; entirely independent from the old
shop can open in the same building later.
The building is still the same, the old one. The shop didn't change,
it's a different shop now.
On top of that a building may have offices on the first floor
additionally to the shop in the basement, or even flats or appartments -
which are possible to map as well.
Therefore yes, I see a justification for that way of tagging; but I
don't see any justification to change the wiki without broad discussion
about it.
regards
Peter
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Cheers,<br>
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