<html><head></head><body>Field border literally means the border of a field, so I fear the tag meaning is not as clear as it should.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 juin 2014 14:35:34 UTC+02:00, Simone Saviolo <simone.saviolo@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mail@simon-wuellhorst.de" target="_blank">mail@simon-wuellhorst.de</a>></span>:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Hello Guys,</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland, farmyards, meadow and so on). Farmlands are typically surrounded or seperated by small areas/borders of several vegetations (trees bushes, at least in Germany), called Field Borders (or Feldrain in German, more Informations: </span><a href="http://extension.missouri.edu/p/g9421" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">http://extension.missouri.edu/p/g9421</span></a><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"> or <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feldrain"
target="_blank">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feldrain</a>). They are important for farmers (to improve crops growth) and they also useful for a better orientation and navigation in this country.</span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">I started a thread on <a href="http://forum.osm.org" target="_blank">forum.osm.org</a> (It’s a german thread, so if you have questions, please ask me) to get tips for the correct/ideal tagging of these areas (important:it’s an area, not a way!). </span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">In summary I got a lot of suggestions, for example natural=scrub or natural=wood, ….</span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">The problem of all these suggestions were, they all describe the type of vegetation and not the purpose of these areas. Besides the vegetation of these areas are much various, so you can’t describe them by using one or two “vegetation”-tags.</span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">According to the post of “dieterdreist” (</span><a href="http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=422045#p422045" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=422045#p422045</span></a><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">) I thought about to create/use a completely new tag/value.</span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">At this point I’m not shure which key would be correct. I’m thinking about natural=fieldborder or landuse=fieldborder. On the one landuse=fieldborder seems to be the better choise, because field borders have got a farming purpose. But on the other hand they are grown as they are and are not really managed.</span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">So what whould be your favourite key/value for Filed Borders or what are you thinking about this topic in general.</span></p>
<br /><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">PS: After the latest update of the mapnik style farmlands/farmyards are sourrounded by a little border. Some people say that would be raise the motivation to create smaller seperations of farmland-areas (an own farmland-area for every farmland and not a farmland-area for a whole region). In my opinion the inroduciton of a Filed Border tag would support these idea, too.</span></p>
</span></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>I'm a big supporter of small farmland areas too, and I'm starting to pay more attention to what lies between a field and its neighbour. In my case, though, most fields are rice fields, which are only separated by a small earth levee (<a href="http://www.ecori.it/images/gallery/1.jpg">http://www.ecori.it/images/gallery/1.jpg</a>). When they're not close to each other, it's because a track or a waterway runs in that space. While some of the larger levees are often lined with trees or bushes, I'm not sure this would still qualify as field border, in the sense of the landuse (in other words, I wouldn't think that that vegetation is provided for agricultural/habitat reasons, but it may be, I'm no agronomist). Anyway, some such areas have been tagged by their vegetation characteristics. <br />
</div><div><br /></div><div>I think the best solution is to provide both tags, one about the vegetation, one about its agricultural function, as these two functions are largely orthogonal in my view. </div><div><br /></div><div>
Ciao,</div><div><br /></div><div>Simone</div></div>
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