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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote :<br>
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<div>FYI it doesn't seem likely that the event of dropping
highway=bus_stop or highway=speed_camera will be dropped in a
foreseeable future, meaning you'll have to keep double tagging
everything.<br>
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In Belgium all red light cameras do double duty as speed
cameras, so I didn't have this particular problem. Are you sure
yours aren't speed cameras as well?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-07-22 10:38 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss
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I hesitate to just invent a new highway=*_camera tag,
beause I don't<br>
actually like it to be under the highway key (something
accepted for the<br>
speed_camera probably only of historical reasons)<br>
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You could see how big the support in the community is
replace highway=speed_camera key with a man_made=* As this
is about they key you could always tag both and rounters
etc. could adopt and support both and at some distant point
in the future the highway key might be dropped. That's kinda
what's happening to public_transport where the new system is
adopted more and more, but highway=bus_stop stop is still
used.<br>
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I have mentioned without much follow-up a similar issue with
highway=crossing + crossing=*.<br>
What OSM calls "crossing", zebra stripes, is in fact a "passage pour
piétons" which does not necessarily cross.<br>
In Belgium (too), we have quite a number of "passages pour piétons"
painted longitudinally and it makes sense.<br>
Children's safety, for example, is just as important if they have to
walk alongside on the road.<br>
Or it may be painted across a parking lot, in which case mapping
highway=crossing ways make sense.<br>
crossing=* alone (which, as a highway=* tag implicitly means
highway:crossing) is sufficient.<br>
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So, I am proposing:<br>
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<li>to allow crossing=* on any highway=* when the painting is
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<li>crossing:right=yes, crossing:left=yes in that case<br>
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<li>highway=crossing for a way painted across an area<br>
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