<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks for adding productivity to the conversation! </div><div><br>On Jul 22, 2014, at 1:53 PM, John Packer <<a href="mailto:john.packer7@gmail.com">john.packer7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Friends,<br><br></div><div>I've had this in my to-do list for a while, and the recent discussion about min_age and age_group prompted me to bring attention to this issue.<br></div><div><br>
</div><div>We should review the way kindergartens are being tagged.<br><div>From what I have seen, one thing seems clear: there is demand for differentiating between places where kids are simply taken care of, and places where kids have basic education, but not at school level.<br>
</div><br></div><div>First, some history I discovered looking in the wiki:<br></div><div>* amenity=preschool[1]
was proposed in the past to differentiate between places where kids go
learn things(preschool) and places where
kids are simply cared for (kindergarden). It was rejected in the voting
process. (it has ~220 uses currently [2])<br>* one alternative way of tagging a preschool would be to tag it as amenity=school +
isced:level=0, while kindergarten becomes simply the place where kids
are taken care of. One problem with this is that it seems an ISCED level
might not fit so well with all countries's education system (some
people mentioned it doesn't with Germany's [3]).<br>* amenity=childcare [4] was proposed
in the past to differentiate between places where kids go learn
things(kindergarten) and places where kids are simply cared for
(childcare). It was rejected in the voting process. But turns out that nowadays amenity=childcare is supported by the iD editor [5] and consequently has around 1400 uses.<br><br></div><div>My humble opinion is that Kindergarten seems to be defined as the place where kids get some basic education [7], and it's probably used like that, so it should remain that way (even if it may have some overlap with isced:level=0). While amenity=childcare (that has already gained traction) should be representative of the Day Care or Child Care [8].<br>
</div><div>As far as I saw, amenity=childcare is simply an rejected feature according to the wiki, and we should fix that.<br></div><br></div><div>Cheers, <br>John<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1]: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pre-School_%28early_childhood_education%29">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pre-School_%28early_childhood_education%29</a><br>
[2]: <a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org//search?q=amenity%3Dpreschool">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org//search?q=amenity%3Dpreschool</a><br>[3]: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:isced:level#Germany">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:isced:level#Germany</a><br>
[4]: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/childcare">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/childcare</a><br>[5]: <a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/874a3e2ad67e77e8896ff9580d40bf990eaed974/dist/locales/en.json#L1136">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/874a3e2ad67e77e8896ff9580d40bf990eaed974/dist/locales/en.json#L1136</a><br>
[6]: <a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=amenity%3Dchildcare">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=amenity%3Dchildcare</a><br>[7]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindergarten">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindergarten</a><br>
[8]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_care">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_care</a><br></div></div></div>
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