<html><head></head><body>Good proposal, Andrew.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 août 2014 22:29:40 UTC+02:00, Andrew Guertin <andrew.guertin@uvm.edu> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On 08/20/2014 04:58 PM, Richard Z. wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:45:30PM +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br /><br /> Sorry to raise this issue again but it really does need resolving:<br /><br /> * for ensuring good data; and<br /> * to prevent forest and wood being rendered as the same thing [1]<br /><br /> Currently the descriptions in the green box on the right of the wiki page<br /> (and thus those that get picked up by taginfo and other software) are:<br /><br /> Wood: Woodland with no forestry<br /> Forest: Managed woodland or woodland plantation.<br /><br /> In my eyes this is pretty clear. What am I missing / why does there seem to<br /> be so much confusion?<br /></blockquote><br />
landuse/landcover/natural need resolving so I would not spend too much<br /> energy on partial improvements of it.<br /></blockquote><br />True, but this is the largest single part of what needs to be fixed <br />about it all.<br /><br />Personally, I think the following scheme would work well:<br /><br />landcover=forest<br /> anywhere there's trees on the ground<br />landuse=managed_forest<br /> where logging activity occurs or the forest is otherwise closely<br /> tended by humans<br />natural=wild_forest<br /> forests without much human activity, either because they're<br /> protected or because they're far away from humans<br /><br />The landuse and natural tags would be in addition to landcover. The vast <br />majority of areas would have neither, because they're not cared for by <br />humans but they're still too affected by human interaction.<br /><br />This does get ambiguous anywhere humans decided "we want trees here, but <br />other than that we don't care", like the
Three-North Shelter Forest <br />Program.<br /><br />landuse could have crop=*, if known.<br /><br />landuse=forest<br /> Deprecated. Consumers probably want to treat this like<br /> landcover=forest. Human editors should change this to a newer<br /> tag only if they know what is appropriate, with the hint that<br /> it might be a managed forest, if the original editor was paying<br /> close attention.<br />natural=wood<br /> Deprecated. Consumers probably want to treat this like<br /> landcover=forest. Human editors should change this to a newer<br /> tag only if they know what is appropriate, with the hint that<br /> it might be a wild forest, if the original editor was paying<br /> close attention.<br /><br />--Andrew<br /><br /><hr /><br />Tagging mailing list<br />Tagging@openstreetmap.org<br /><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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