<div dir="ltr">Note, there is also bicycle=use_sidepath created for this purpose.<br><br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-22 14:50 GMT+01:00 Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 22/12/2014 11:00 PM, <a href="mailto:tagging-request@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging-request@openstreetmap.<u></u>org</a> wrote:<br>
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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:53:53 +0100<br>
From: Marc Gemis <<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"<br>
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs.<br>
optional cycletracks)<br>
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In Belgium the cyclist always have to use the cycleway, except<br>
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- the path is in bad condition (glass, snow, holes, ...)<br>
- Children on small bikes<br>
- groups of cyclists.<br>
- for some special turns (see page 10 of<br>
<a href="http://webshop.bivv.be/frontend/files/products/pdf/2fea42ac8b1b22e59ef8d5ea77aaf906/fietsersendewegcode.pdf" target="_blank">http://webshop.bivv.be/<u></u>frontend/files/products/pdf/<u></u>2fea42ac8b1b22e59ef8d5ea77aaf9<u></u>06/fietsersendewegcode.pdf</a><br>
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regards<br>
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m<br>
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Colin Smale <<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">colin.smale@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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In NL I think it is similar to Germany. The definition of the sign is<br>
"verplicht fietspad" i.e. compulsory cycle track. When the cycle track runs<br>
adjacent to a road the intention is clear, but the sign is interestingly<br>
also used for cycle paths through the middle of the countryside with no<br>
adjacent road. One might interpret this as "you MUST follow this path, even<br>
if it goes in the wrong direction for you"....<br>
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Colin<br>
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I think the only need for 'obligatory cycleway' is to remove bicyclist from certain roads! e.g.<br>
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I'm bicycling north to south.. there is an obligatory cycleway 1000 kms west of me ..<br>
Do I have to use it? No. Totally unreasonable.<br>
Or is it only obligatory for the adjacent road? Yes. In which case the road can be tagged bicycle=no ... if I don't want to use that 'obligatory cycleway' I could then find another road .. possibly further away, but I could avoid both that road and that cycleway. Thus the 'obligatory cycleway' applies to those bicyclists trying to use that one road.<br>
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Same situation for the 'compulsory cycle track' if no other path exists then you have to use it, if there are other paths then mark the other paths as bicycle=no, as the situation demands.<br>
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Marc In some states of Australia I can bicycle on any footpath, in others I can if I'm under 12 years old or accompanying that child. I don't tag that, I'd not tag those complex exceptions in Belgium either.<br>
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