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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/02/2015 2:21 PM, Dave Swarthout
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<div>Tagging the relation containing the parts of the route is
not the issue. </div>
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I am referring to the "ways" that represent the actual track a
canoe would take to traverse a lake. It is a type of path but it
is on water, sort of like a ferry route. For example, the most
direct route across a lake might not be the best. You might want
to go around an island's leeward side rather than to windward.
Drawing a line or way across the lake and around the island to
show this path is easy. But how then do you tag it? It's not a
highway and it's not a ferry track. What exactly is it?</div>
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If you used the same kind of scheme ferries use, then renders will
already have some idea of what to do with it.. <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ferry">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ferry</a><br>
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thus;<br>
canoe=trunk<br>
canoe=unclassified <br>
etc. <br>
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but it will need a wiki page .. and RFC RFV here if you like too. <br>
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For me .. what is windward today would be leeward tomorrow. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Warin
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<div>On 22/02/2015 1:37 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for bringing this up. Canoe
routes and their connectors is a topic that needs
work.
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<div>In the present case and to answer your
question, I would prefer portage=*
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<div>This would leave open multiple possibilities
for values, yes/no, canoe. kayak, etc., that
might more fully describe the portage.The other
two are too limited or specialized, IMO. <br>
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</span> Yep, the broader the key the better .. you never
know what things will crop up in the future. <br>
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<div>Another issue regarding canoe routes which
needs to be addressed at some point in the
future is that there is, to my knowledge, no way
to tag the waterway portions of a canoe trail or
route. <br>
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</span> I'd think that canoe routes should be done similar
to bicycle routes... maybe mountain bike as they have some
system for the difficulty of the route.. <br>
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There should be an OSM wiki page on it. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, I'd like to add some tags for
canoe portages (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage</a>) in
wilderness areas. These would be trails tagged
highway=path plus some tag to designate that
they're used for portaging between lakes. I
have found three different tags that are
currently used to tag portages (there may be
others?), and am wondering if anyone has
recommendations about what would be best.
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<div>1) portage=* (223 objects) <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/portage"
target="_blank">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/portage</a></div>
<div>2) whitewater=portage_way (227 objects) <a
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href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/whitewater=portage_way"
target="_blank">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/whitewater=portage_way</a></div>
<div>3) canoe=portage (67 object) <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/canoe=portage"
target="_blank">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/canoe=portage</a></div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Brad</div>
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