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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/03/2015 7:00 PM, Martin Vonwald
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<div dir="ltr">Hi!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-03-13 2:06 GMT+01:00 David <span
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class="">> No, numeric values are not a good choice
- really not. I also don't like the values much, but
at least it's clear that "good" is better than "bad".<br>
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</span>But Martin, its not a "good" or "bad" situation,
thats the point. Some people seek out extremely
challenging roads to traverse. While dead smooth is good
while getting there, why bother to go there if its going
to be smooth all the way ?<br>
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That's not what I meant. If someone has no idea about the
meaning of the values and just look at the existing tags,
one may guess correctly, that "good" means smoother than
"bad". But what is smoother? grade1 or grade5?<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">And please do not claim that everyone
will look in the wiki what the values actually mean. Please
stay realistic ;-)<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">And to answer the next argument: but
if people don't know the exact meaning and also don't look
in the wiki, we can not be sure that they use the values
correctly. Yes. We can also not be sure that they use the
values correctly IF the look in the wiki. But the chances
that we get more appropriate values is much higher with
smoothness=good than with smoothness=grade97, because a
"good smoothness" will have a much wider common
understanding than "smoothness=31415whatever".<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best regards,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Martin<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">P.S: I'm aware that we will not reach
consensus about this on this mailing list ;-)<br>
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I'm for verbal description rather than a number - easier to
understand. <br>
If I come across a road marked 'smoothness=medium' and later come
across a road with worse smoothness I can see which way to go with
the verbal value, if the value was a simple number I'd nave no
idea..and may skip the data entry due to time limits, laziness and
added complexity. <br>
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Some decades ago I looked at road classifications .. for 'off road'
vehicles, I was after erosion problems at the time ... I think there
may be some classification system for smoothness .. certainly there
was for the load bearing of a terrain. Some US military publication
had some tech data in it .. amonst some 40 odd publications I
skimmed through at the time. Might try to look that up? Depends on
how easy it is to find it in the library catalogue ... it is better
than google .. but they have a different system of course. <br>
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Photos help ... but I'd like some word guidance too. <br>
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