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On Mar 13, 2015 9:18 PM, "Warin" <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 14/03/2015 11:31 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:<br>
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>> OsmAnd was telling me that I was passing a toll_booth on a German motorway,<br>
>> however it was just one of the camera bridges operated by TollCollect,<br>
>> and applicable only for toll:hgv=yes. However toll is not collected when<br>
>> passing this point, it is collected for using a certain road segment.<br>
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>> Checking the wiki I found the tagging for toll technology quite underdeveloped,<br>
>> or do I miss something?<br>
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>> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Abarrier%3Dtoll_booth">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Abarrier%3Dtoll_booth</a> limits<br>
>> the use for "A place where a road usage toll or fee is collected",<br>
>> which is semantically fine and therefore does not apply to those bridges, which<br>
>> would be enforcement devices rather collection stations. You pay at terminals<br>
>> elsewhere.<br>
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>> Thus my next stop was <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement</a><br>
>> but, interestingly, it does not know yet about toll at all, yet.<br>
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> No .. enforcement from the wiki is "permanently installed devices that measure and document traffic violations" a toll is not a traffic violation.<br>
> Thus 'enforcement' is for traffic iolations - like speeding, red light running, tailgating .. basically "breaking a law". Travelling on a toll road is not "breaking a law" unless you fail to pay - and then you would not be booked under a traffic law, well not here.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regional semantics. Colorado won't let you renew your registration after toll violations, Oklahoma makes you pay the toll and asseses steep fines, plus 3 points on your license for skipping toll: If you drive to Joplin from OKC with a clean license and take the Turner, Creek and Rogers turnpikes and don't pay toll, you won't have a driver's license before you even reach the state line, and it'll take a few months for enough points to expire to get it back!</p>