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<div data-externalstyle="false" dir="ltr" style="font-family: 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif';font-size:12pt;"><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">Not sure what you mean by “Private Objects”, anything in the DB is capable of being displayed, depending on whether the Renderer wants to. Nothing is Private in OSM.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;" data-signatureblock="true"><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">Jonathan<br><br>-----------------------<br>http://bigfatfrog67.me</div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div></div><div style="padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid;"><div><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style='line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com" target="_parent">John F. Eldredge</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:44<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_parent">Tag discussion, strategy and related tools</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div dir="">
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: black;">Does the default rendering on
the slippy map on OSM's main page show private objects? If it does, then
there is a loss of privacy. If it doesn't, then there is a loss of feedback
to mappers.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: black;">-- <br>
John F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com<br>
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.<br>
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<p style="margin: 10pt 0px; color: black; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">On
March 16, 2015 7:08:34 PM Warin <61sundowner@gmail.com> wrote:</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/03/2015 10:46 AM, Bryce Nesbitt
wrote:<br>
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"Please do not map private objects in private space. In general
if
<div>the object could create a privacy concern, or is just not
useful to </div>
<div>a member of the public, please don't add it to the
database. Note</div>
<div>it is fully OK to map facilities within membership or fee
based venues,</div>
<div>as long as the facilities are reasonably available to
members of the public."</div>
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<div><b>Examples not to map</b>: toilets in homes, employee only
toilets in businesses, private recycling bins, playgrounds in
private homes or day care facilities.</div>
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<div><b>Examples to map: </b>toilets inside DisneyLand,
buildings visible from air photos, private facilities with a
history of public "permissive" use.</div>
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If OSM encourages others to use the OSM data base.. why cannot they
add data that is 'private' to them? <br>
<br>
If renderers were not to render any access=private object then the
general public would not be aware of these 'private' objects and <br>
those who want them may enter them and configure there own render to
show 'their' data alongside OSM data. <br>
<br>
One idea is to only map stuff that is 'publicly viewable'. Some
define this as 'from a public place' such as a street. However with
satellite views being publicly available then mapping things that
are not viewable from a public street becomes possible with more
accuracy than that of a visual estimation from a public street. <br>
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I think that mapping stuff that is not usefull, in some way, is a
waste of time, public stuff or private stuff. If a person with
authority wants to map private stuff .. then I think that is OK. The
key is the authority. <br>
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And then the definition of 'private' is? <br>
Are Universities 'private'? Are bicycle repair stations inside
university grounds private? <br>
Are private swimming pools in backyards to be mapped as they may be
used in an emergency to fight fires? <br>
The boundaries between private and public are grey ... and then
their is community emergency use. Murky waters. <br>
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