<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have updated the <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/camp_site%3D*">proposal</a> with the feedback as much as possible.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards,<br><br><i>Jan van Bekkum</i><div><a href="http://www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl" target="_blank">www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl</a></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 1:55 PM, John Willis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnw@mac.com" target="_blank">johnw@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
I understand the risk of confusion, but:<br>
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A - if there is any "informal" kind of tag there would be people who tag particularly good sites to pitch a tent in national parks or whatnot with them, and though I can only think of a couple myself I'd consider good enough to map, people will want to share this as soon as they see "informal" is available, so...<br>
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B - I don't want informal - either turnout car-camping, hotel adjacent camping, nor random trekking camp clearings confused in any way with proper, designated, car-camping /tent camping / caravan facilities - and giving people a couple extra tag values is going the reduce confusion so the actual maintained camp sites are labeled and marked correctly by taggers. I thought about the few car camping ("auto camp") / tent camping sites I'd seen in Japan recently and thought about how I would tag those, and the thoughts about tent platforms came to mind, for example, same with tagging their immaculate kitchens and amenities in another thread.<br>
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I'm not a big camper anymore, nor campsite tagger, but I have been on hundreds of camping trips, covering every facility mentioned several times over (save RV/caravan sites) and there seems to be big distinctions between all the kinds I mentioned - and being able to convey those in tags seems relevant - though maybe my input is not as important because I'm not so interested in tagging those kind of sites.<br>
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I hope my input was helpful, I will be voting yes on whatever is decided.<br>
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Javbw<br>
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> On Mar 15, 2015, at 8:46 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) <<a href="mailto:liste2@letuffe.org">liste2@letuffe.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> dieterdreist wrote<br>
>>> Am 14.03.2015 um 05:41 schrieb John Willis <<br>
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>> johnw@<br>
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>>> and mapping them for other Trekkers would be useful only if they are not<br>
>>> confused at all with all of the other, more substatial or easily accessed<br>
>>> spots in a camp or along a road.<br>
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>> +1, I believe the tag for informal camping spots should not just be a sub<br>
>> key added to the same tag as for a commercial or otherwise official camp<br>
>> site, it should be a different main tag<br>
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> +1 from me as well. Too much risks of confusion of too different concepts.<br>
> (Please note that I just discovered on that page the existence of<br>
> impromptu=yes which imho should be warned against on the wiki, and given<br>
> it's rather low usage (400) after 8 years of existence, could also be marked<br>
> as proposed for deprecation in favor of another tourism=x top tag<br>
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