<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think the table is basically correct. I added showers, amended the pitches and added access hours. In Europe it is very common that no pitches are defined. Staffing=yes means that during at least defined period of the day (say 7:00-10:00 and 16:00-20:00). Usually you are not able to register beyond these hours. Guarded depends on the region: in Europe usually not, in Africa definitely yes.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div style="direction:ltr"><div style="direction:ltr">
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt" lang="nl"> </p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center"><span style="background:rgb(229,224,236)">Standard</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center"><span style="background:rgb(229,224,236)">Designated</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center"><span style="background:rgb(229,224,236)">Trekking</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center"><span style="background:rgb(229,224,236)">Informal</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Fee</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Significant
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No/Nominal</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">No/Nominal</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Toilets</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Yes</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Possibly</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red">Showers</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">Yes, usually hot</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Power </p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Usually</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Rarely</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Water </p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Yes</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Sometimes</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Maybe</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Usually</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Rarely</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Staff </p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center"> Yes</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Rarely</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Pitches </p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Yes<span style="color:red">/No</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Rarely</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Official</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Yes</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Yes</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">Usually</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:center">No</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red">Access</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">Restricted hours</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">24/7</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">24/7</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;color:red;text-align:center">24/7</p>
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</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#999999"></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#999999"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><i>To me, and I think others agree, designated means official. Any place where people camp in a specially prepared environment has been "designated" at some point, either by the government or a business owner; designated to be a campground. To base an entire category on this term is misleading IMO.</i></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I see your point, but do we have a better phrase? Basic? Overnight?</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i><br></i></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i><font color="#999999">@Jan - yes, I suppose the camping areas I'm talking about could be category #2 if you get rid of the adjective "nominal" for the fee. Just say they "may be free or charge a fee" because these days camping fees are anything but nominal, at least in my opinion.<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline"></div></font></i></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">OK</div></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><i><font color="#999999"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I say get rid of #6 entirely. Tagging an entire state as an area where camping is permitted, like Alaska, is problematical at best.</span></font></i></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">OK</div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#999999"><i><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I am happy with "camp_site=informal" (unlike Martin), pretty much </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">says what it is supposed to say. I expect it would be rendered </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">differently or not at all in most cases. We could make that clearer in </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">the text ?</span></i></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I can see Martin's point. It is like the fuel discussion: you don't want to mix the regular filling stations and the drums.</div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><i><font color="#999999"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">And just live with it like that ? I really like the category approach </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">but worry that we are not going to make it work. What would need to </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">happen is to improve the documentation for the tourism=camp_site and, </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">then, maybe fill in a few missing tags. That interestingly, is where we </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">were some months ago and saw the spin out of sanitary_dump_station= and </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">waste= proposals.</span></font></i></div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In any case I want to keep the separation between designated (in the broader sense), non designated (not much discussed here, but for me the most important reason to start the topic) and informal. We could decide to recombine the current <b>Standard</b>, <b>Designated </b>and <b>Trekking.</b> Indeed we could leave the other details to attributes.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Jan</div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards,<br><br><i>Jan van Bekkum</i><div><a href="http://www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl" target="_blank">www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl</a></div></div></div></div>
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