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<div data-externalstyle="false" dir="ltr" style="font-family: 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif';font-size:12pt;"><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">If it's there for years then it is a campsite no matter how it is advertised. </div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">There is no point in separating designated and non-designated.</div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">In my opinion those photos do not depict wild camping, you are camping in a car park with some facilities available to the public. The is nothing “Wild” about it. </div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">All of these examples can be covered by existing tags.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;" data-signatureblock="true"><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;">Jonathan<br><br>-----------------------<br>http://bigfatfrog67.me</div><div style="color: rgb(55, 86, 35); font-size: 14pt;"><br></div></div><div style="padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid;"><div><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style='line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:jan.vanbekkum@gmail.com" target="_parent">Jan van Bekkum</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:36<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_parent">Tag discussion, strategy and related tools</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div dir=""><div dir="ltr">Non-designated is not necessarily temporary. Some hotels may offer the service for many years, but it is not officially announced and not listed. For overlanders this information is too important not to have it mapped somehow.<br><div><br></div><div>Let me also give a few examples of wild camps where we stayed that should be on the map:</div><div><ul style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-type: disc;"><li>Guarded section of a car parking next to a city park with public toilet (Tabriz, Iran). Amongst overlanders this is the one place to go to in Tabriz. In Iran we had quite a few situations like this.<br></li><li>Kite Beach in Dubai: as Dubai is very densely built up there are few good places to stay. The kite beach is a parking at the beach near the Kite Club. The Kite Club has clean public toilets and a beach shower.</li></ul></div>Images are <a href="https://plus.google.com/photos/+JanvanBekkum/albums/6130521674529892033" target="_parent">here</a>.<div><br></div><div>Reagrds,</div><div><br></div><div>Jan<br><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_parent">etmap.<u></u>org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
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