<div dir="ltr"><div><div>1) Please no new tag that breaks existing tagging.<br><br></div>2) Please can you give me the missing link in your proposal ("But it remains disputed (<i>Insert Link</i>) whether that obligatory cycleway has to be mapped as a separate way ...). I am interested in that for a different purpose which regards the mandatory-ness of the bicycle lanes in Italy (they are legally cycle-paths with mandatory use).<br><br>3) For me it seems that the <tt style="background-color:rgb(221,221,238);white-space:pre" dir="ltr"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle" title="Key:bicycle">bicycle</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath" title="Tag:bicycle=use sidepath">use_sidepath</a></tt> is the correct approach, exactly because it is impossible to decide whether a cycleway is mandatory or not without saying with respect to what road the requirement is correct. <br>Let's construct a case: you have two parallel roads. In the middle between the two there is a cycleway that is labelled with "mandatory". How do you determine the weighing of the roads for your bicycle routing. Either on the cycleway the "mandatory" tag has a value that defines which of the roads are affected, or the roads themselves are labelled with "bicycle:use_sidepath=yes/no" (note that this is slightly different from bicycle=use_sidepath, but this is less important)<br><br></div><div>Volker <br><br></div><div>(Italy)<br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 March 2015 at 23:56, Hubert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sg.forum@gmx.de" target="_blank">sg.forum@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Hallo</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> fellow mappers and bicycle</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">enthusiasts</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">, </font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">I have created a proposal to tag</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">obligatory</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> roadside cycle ways with bicycle=obligatory.</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/obligatory_usage" target="_blank"><span lang="de"><u></u></span><u><span lang="en-us"><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/obligatory_usage</font></span></u><span lang="de"></span></a><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">The proposals</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">is in its</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">early</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> stages right now, but I would like to get your ideas and</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">comments already.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">This value can be interpreted as an counterpart</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">to bicycle=use_sidepath.</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">As this tag wou</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ld replace bicycle=designated in a</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">quite a</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">few cases</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">,</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> I am hoping for a lot of support from the</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">community</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">.</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Happy mapping</font></span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></font></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Hubert</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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