<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Trials often overlap with other trails, fire roads (tracks) and may actually be tracks for most of the path until it turns off near the top of a peak or goes away from a restricted access zone. </div><div><br></div><div>The Subashiri route on Mt Fuji is a pedestrian road, steps, trail, track, trail.. Etc as it overlaps with a bulldozer road for servicing the "stations", and has concrete and stone steps in places. </div><div><br></div><div>Every state park I have been in in California uses pieces of fire roads for parts of almost all routes, to the trail is partially partially path and partially track. </div><div><br></div><div>I have never made a route relation yet, but as I understand it, to link those different parts together would require a route relation. </div><div><br></div><div>Would making the entrance=trailhead part of that (or leisure=trailhead) part of that be incorrect? Or are we talking about two different things? </div><div><br>Javbw</div><div><br>On Apr 16, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Dave Swarthout <<a href="mailto:daveswarthout@gmail.com">daveswarthout@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">But I'd be willing to bet that most trails are not part of a network of other trails or a route but are stand-alone. The trails I once hiked in the Adirondack Mountains in New York State all have names and trailheads but, with a couple of exceptions, are not part of any route. I think the mixed approach is best. If a given trail is part of a larger system of trails, or the area where it begins has related amenities, then the relation idea makes sense. Otherwise, keeping it simple with a named trailhead node where the transition from highway to footway takes place will suffice.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Friedrich Volkmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bsd@volki.at" target="_blank">bsd@volki.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 14.04.2015 23:32, Gmail wrote:<br>
> role=start is used for crosscountry ski routes relations.<br>
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I like the idea to include trailheads as members of route relations.<br>
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It's a more versatile approach than highway=trailhead.<br>
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