<html><head></head><body>FWIW, on a mountain where I volunteer I mapped the campgrounds with the tagging shown on the proposed extensions page which uses ref=* instead of addr:street or addr:unit.<br>
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I have also generated paper maps off that OSM data. Local fire people saw one and were impressed and asked for a copy. Ended up generating a special map for them.<br>
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They now can easily respond to any specific campsite. None of the campgrounds have a street address. In fact, many other places in that area are referred to by where they are in relation to the campgrounds.<br>
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Point being showing campsites or routing is a rendering issue not tagging.<br>
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I know of at least one backcountry campground several miles from any road that has numbered individual pitches. Seems like addr:house number or addr:unit is inappropriate in that context.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Tod<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 17, 2015 8:36:03 PM PDT, Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Apr 17, 2015 1:41 AM, "Bryce Nesbitt" <<a href="mailto:bryce2@obviously.com">bryce2@obviously.com</a>> wrote:<br />
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> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:50 PM, David Bannon <<a href="mailto:dbannon@internode.on.net">dbannon@internode.on.net</a>> wrote:<br />
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>> That scheme seems to rely on house number model. Sure looks good.<br />
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>> But does it, by implication, indicate there is a (eg) a house number 12<br />
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> If you entered Pinnacles Campground Site 12 into your OSM powered GPS, <br />
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<p dir="ltr">Yes, I love where your head is at.</p>
<p dir="ltr">> In practice that would also require:<br />
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> addr:housenumber=12<br />
> addr:street=[unnamed service road]</p>
<p dir="ltr">This is broken and should use a different tag. addr:unit=12 would be better. Case in point, my address (in a caravan site, I know, breaking no stereotypes about midwest life here...) already has addr:housenumber=801, and could have addr:unit=252 if I got around to it (hard to accurately survey in my trailer park). Based on my home life and previous experience as a field service engineer and postal service contractor, the US concept of addresses for a campground, trailer park, apartment complex, condominium, and office building are identical (with the exception of a few edge cases where vanity addressing or multiple house numbers for the same building or complex are in play).</p>
<p dir="ltr">> But there's no (easy) way to define an address connected to an unnamed road. Way numbers<br />
> are not supported for addr:street, afik.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I guarantee you that the fire department has some way to sort it out, and it's probably the campground's street address.<br />
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