<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Brad Neuhauser <<a href="mailto:brad.neuhauser@gmail.com" class="">brad.neuhauser@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span class="">+1 on addr:unit or ref over addr:housenumber. I think ref makes more sense than addr:unit on remote/isolated pitches (ie hike-in sites, not drive-in).<br class=""></span></div><span class=""></span><div class=""><span class=""><br class="">In addition, I've seen cases where individual pitches are named instead of numbered. It's not mentioned, but to clarify, I'm assuming that would just use "name” </span></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Sounds like there is a possibility that osm-carto might start showing some information about individual pitches, so maybe we can settle on something.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>In the U.S. I see circumstances where addr:unit is the best fit: Mobile home parks and commercial campgrounds like KOA and some county and state park campgrounds that have a street address and the sites/spaces/pitches within are numbered much as apartment units are numbered.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>But I also see circumstances where addr:unit, implying there are other valid address tags, is a bad fit: Most public campgrounds in US Forests, US Parks and, at least in California, state parks don’t have a verifiable street address. And backcountry (hike or walk-in) campsites sometimes have numbered pitches but definitely don’t have a street address. For these I think ref=* would be the best fit.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Perhaps this is a case where no one identification standard makes sense: I suggest that pitches be tagged with ref=<number/name> but that in those cases where a valid street address exists for the entire campground, the pitches also be tagged with addr:unit=<number/name>. There would be duplicate information but a campground specific renderer could rely on there being a ref=<identifier> while a more general purpose renderer that is also used for apartments and other commercial building display and navigation would have addr:unit=<identifier> to work with where it makes sense.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><div class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Bryce Nesbitt <<a href="mailto:bryce2@obviously.com" class="">bryce2@obviously.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">Which uses newly invited attributes of "water" and "table". I think it better not to reinvent that wheel, and use instead:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><b class=""> camp_site=pitch</b></div><div class=""><b class=""> camp_site:drinking_water=no</b></div><div class=""><b class=""> camp_site:picnic_table=yes</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Or with a more proper namespace:</div><div class=""><br class=""><b class=""> camp_site=pitch</b></div><div class=""><b class=""> pitch:drinking_water=no</b></div><div class=""><b class=""> pitch:picnic_table=yes</b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The more I think about it, the more I like this example “with a more proper namespace”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Procedurally, how to go forward? Should this be a new proposal page or an edit of the old subsection of the old camp_site extended features proposal?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Tod</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>