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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/05/2015 10:39 AM, Dave Swarthout
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<div dir="ltr">Regardless of people's views on this, the reality
is that one of the main reasons people get involved with OSM is
because they want to see the things they tag show up on a map
somewhere at some time.
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<div>Tagging for the renderer isn't going to go away anytime
soon because IMO almost everyone wants to see "their stuff" on
a map.<br>
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Absolutely. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:58 PM,
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On 16 May 2015
at 00:40, Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On 05/16/2015 12:03 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:<br>
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> Tagging for the renderer is natural.
Mappers, especially newbies will be<br>
> disappointed their pet new feature they've
just added to the db does not<br>
> appear on the map.<br>
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<div>Not at all. I'm suggesting additional tags for
basic graphic properties - and for <a
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href="http://www.openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org</a>
to make use of these ADDITIONAL basic tags. All
other maps and rendering would be totally
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What you are talking about is essentially "MS
Paint with multi-user<br>
capability". That's certainly an interesting
project in itself but not<br>
something that we should remotely consider in OSM.<br>
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<div>Why shouldn't a user who adds a new feature to
the db be allowed to 'suggest' how it appears on
'THE' map ? Once the feature is designed to be
'properly' rendered, the basic graphic tags can be
removed.</div>
<div>I'm suggesting that these additional basic tags
are used on a temporary basis but would not oppose
their permanent use if others agreed.</div>
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If you 'add a new feature to the db' then you should describe it on
a wiki page .. on that page you can suggest the rendering .. some of
the wiki pages have it ... <br>
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e.g.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap#Rendering">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap#Rendering</a><br>
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This does not mean it will be rendered. Nor does it mean it will be
rendered in the way suggested. In fact many people using the tag
man_made=water_tap use the additional key amenity=drinking_water ...
and it is the drinking_water that gets rendered. <br>
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So if you want something rendered straight away .. pick an existing
tag that is already rendered. If you want to add a new tag .. then
do so, document it on the wiki ... and hope that lots of people use
it and lots of them get onto the db .. then finally the renders
might recognise it and it appears on the map. That is the way it
works now .. unless you start rendering your own maps. <br>
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