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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-05-15 10:09, Robin `ypid`
Schneider wrote :<br>
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<pre wrap="">On 14.05.2015 23:17, André Pirard wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 2015-05-13 16:49, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote :
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This can already be done, no problem. It is even described on the key page [1].
Just search for "on appointment".
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<pre wrap="">Typical of that page, you discover "on appointment" by chance in an
example dealing with fallback.
I have read that page throughout 36 times, that's what one must do for
each question.
And you make me discover a very fundamental rule I didn't notice after
36 readings: that the tokens can be literal strings. And I wonder how
software supposed to tell whether it's open can understand strings.
Thanks.
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Software is not supposed to evaluate comments in opening_hours (although there
has been an discussion about this [2]). I just added an explanation for the use
of comments [3]. I hope this helps.</pre>
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The amazing is that I was told that opening_hours supports (just
search) "on appointment" and that after coding it I learn that what
I have added is a comment. And that the "fallback" '|| "on
appointment" ' would in fact be '||'.<br>
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<pre wrap="">About the complexity:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/23332#comment27468">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/23332#comment27468</a>
You are welcome to write good documentation/tutorials for normal mappers.</pre>
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It's far from the first time that I read "if you don't understand,
write the documentation".<br>
On the other hand, I did write a <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours#Simplified_syntax">simplified
syntax</a> of what I think I understand and which was applauded by
the "normal mappers" but someone had removed it and almost insulted
me for doing that.<br>
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<pre wrap="">The thing which really helped me to understand opening_hours in OSM was the
syntax specification [4]. I would recommend everyone to try to wrap your head
around it.
[2]:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:opening_hours#women.2Fmen-only_days">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:opening_hours#women.2Fmen-only_days</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification#explain:comment">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification#explain:comment</a>
[4]: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification</a></pre>
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Thanks for any improvement.<br>
I suggest (generally) that documentation said something like
"anything in quotes is a comment that can be considered as removed
from the tag" and only then gave examples.<br>
This is because explaining syntax almost only with comments like the
opening_hours page does may have the reader believe that comments
mean: the text in quotes may be displayed on the user screen if the
preceding part of the rule is true or something like that.<br>
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Cheers
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<pre wrap="">Garbage detector software:
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<pre wrap="">It's not the tagging errors that the QA tools usually detect.
I discovered 2 streets whose non missing buildings outlines were mapped
"à la Picasso".
Very nice from a 5 m distance in an exhibition hall, but hair-raising as
you watch close up.
I was wondering if there's more Picasso around and where.
I think I'll try searches by author's name.
Is award-winning rush-tagging OSM-like ?
Cheers
André.
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<pre wrap="">* <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/?setLng=en">http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/?setLng=en</a>
* <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance_Tools_script">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance_Tools_script</a>
Checkout: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/">http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/</a>
[1]: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours</a>
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