<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 May 2015 at 15:28, Ross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@4x4falcon.com" target="_blank">info@4x4falcon.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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We know that <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr" target="_blank">addr:housenumber</a>=* <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#How_to_map_addresses" target="_blank">can be tagged on nodes</a>
and that it's very convenient.<br>
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<div>But wrong.</div>
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</span> Why? It's all very well that this may be you
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Address = building = area, not node. It's 'accepted' as a
second best option for where a building hasn't been drawn. I
find quite a lot of them and remove them by transferring the
data to the buildings - sometimes there's a building and a
loose node containing the same data! In those cases, a simple
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Where is it accepted?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>On OSM - that's why they are there ! </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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Australian addresses refer to the property only and a property may
have several buildings.<br>
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I can show you plenty of locations where there is no building but it
still has an address, or the property is so large that the access
from the street/road is 50km from the only building on the property
and if you were routing to the address you'd never get there if the
address was on the building.<br>
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As someone else also pointed out, accepted practice in different
countries varies.<br>
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Open address data in Australia is point (node) data and specifies
what type of address it is, eg "Driveway frontage", "Building
Centroid", "Property Centroid", "Property Access Point", to name a
few.<br>
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The most significant of these is the "Property Access Point" it
tends to occur where a property has an address in one street but
because of different reasons (cliff, drainage, etc) the actual
access is from another street, usually via a right of way.<br>
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IMO addresses should be on nodes only and should show were you
access the property (type "Driveway frontage", "Property Access
Point", "Building Access Point") without anything else on the node.
This way when you use a router it takes you to where you access the
property. This also covers the accessibility issues for disabled
access.<br>
</div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Interestingly, what you're saying is 'where I was' with Google maps - I placed the hospital marker not on the building but near the entrance to the driveway. This approach was queried by the hospital's web/IT dept and I explained that I place the marker to mark the destination for routing - i.e. so that a router would get someone on the right road despite the hospital building being closer to another road. I also explained that I consider placing the marker at the point where local signage would take over the navigation from that point. That idea was agreed and is similar to what you describe. However, with OSM we've far more tools to play with and it seems the ent/exit tag could be used in that way. Your last point is a similar case but in OSM the building (area) should have the address details and the access driveway should make it clear which road is the one used to reach the address.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure whether access routes should actually connect to buildings - I've not done this so far. A pointer on this one would be appreciated, thanks.</div></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Mike.</div><div><div>@<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">millomweb</a> - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland</div><div>via <font color="#ff0000"><strong>the area's premier website - </strong></font></div><div><font color="#ff0000"><strong><br></strong></font></div><div><font color="#ff0000"><strong>currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property & pets</strong></font></div></div><div><font color="#ff0000"><strong><br></strong></font></div><div><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail" target="_blank">T&Cs</a></div></div></div></div></div>
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