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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/06/2015 8:34 AM, John Willis
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<div>Really super large fountains (like the one in front of the
Bellagiao(?) in LasVegas is giant, and mapping the nozzles is
possible - but a nozzle is not an amenity. But the fountain
itself is a fountain (and landmark), which places it in
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<div>Perhaps a fountain sub-key </div>
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<div>Fountain=*</div>
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<div>For the nozzles, lights, water fill, water return,
shut-off/control box, and filter set is a good idea (even if
most of those are unrendered), for fountain people to map the
entire system. </div>
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Some (if not all) could be used by other things .. swimming pools,
spars <br>
Rather than isolate them to fountains .. perhaps man_made=light
waterway=return_outlet waterway=filter ?<br>
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On May 31, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a
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Am 31.05.2015 um 11:44 schrieb AYTOUN RALPH <<a
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<blockquote type="cite">I am a bit puzzled by the use of
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<div>According to wiki it is "<span
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">Covering
an assortment of community facilities..." </span>that
are of obvious use to locals and/or tourists such as
toilets, banks, schools.</div>
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<div>I agree with regard to "nozzle" while for fountains
amenity is OK and is very established </div>
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<div>I find the use of amenity for things like a bar or
biergarten or sauna to be outside this description.</div>
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<div>but they are how the current scheme defines it,
restaurants etc all are in amenity</div>
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<div>I also do not understand the use of amenity for a
tourist or ornamental feature such as a fountain?</div>
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a fountain is not a "tourist" feature in my eyes, they are
much older than tourism in general. they are part of the urban
furniture and serve for decoration, accentuation but sometimes
also practical purposes like providing drinking water,
cooling, etc
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<div>Surely it is just a "place-of-interest" and would be
under tourism=fountain for those fountains that are of
interest to the visitor (and would therefore not be
confused with a drinking fountain which would be an
amenity=drinking_water) and man_made=fountain for others
of less note (as I am unaware of a general
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<div>-1, I would not suggest to use different tags based on
such a weak criterion like "interest to the visitor"</div>
<div>I also hardly can find any particular relation of
visitors and fountains, besides that they look at them (just
as they visit churches, but we are not tagging
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<div>I'd keep amenity=fountain and render just a name
(zoomlevel area size dependent ) with no icon, and would use</div>
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<div>for the single nozzle (not rendered in default style or
rendered just with a small dot)</div>
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