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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks<br>
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      "This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather
      than just as a node."<br>
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      I know little of rendering rules, but the French render appears to
      rotate node icon to suit<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=20&lat=49.01049&lon=8.3876&layers=B0000000FFFFFF">http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=20&lat=49.01049&lon=8.3876&layers=B0000000FFFFFF</a><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/cquest/osmfr-cartocss/blob/abe144cfb375eb7fb403992f06924c40120c6cbf/other.mss#L3547">https://github.com/cquest/osmfr-cartocss/blob/abe144cfb375eb7fb403992f06924c40120c6cbf/other.mss#L3547</a><br>
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      To me, it seems worse for mapnik to miss the rendering of 75% of
      traffic lights than not displaying any of them. If you can see
      some the assumption is that that's all of them.<br>
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      Dave F.   <br>
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      On 15/07/2015 10:09, Richard Mann wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Example in OSM default render: <a
          moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.75352/-1.26340">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.75352/-1.26340</a>
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        <div>and my rendering: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.transportparadise.co.uk/busmap/?zoom=3&lat=51.75325&lon=-1.26182&layers=B0FT">http://www.transportparadise.co.uk/busmap/?zoom=3&lat=51.75325&lon=-1.26182&layers=B0FT</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Dave
          F. <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:davefox@madasafish.com" target="_blank">davefox@madasafish.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span
              class="">On 15/07/2015 08:42, Richard Mann wrote:<br>
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                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                I've taken to adding a way on the alignment of the
                crossing (with highway=footway+crossing=traffic_signals
                as tags). This allows them to be rendered as a
                orientated feature, rather than just as a node.<br>
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            Do you have an example?<span class=""><br>
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                I guess the nodes aren't rendered because otherwise
                you'd have traffic light symbols dotted all over the
                place on some junctions.<br>
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            I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It should
            clarify routing slightly. They don't need to be rendered
            until zoomed right in close.
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                Cheers<br>
                Dave F.<br>
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