<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@ir.bbn.com" class="">gdt@ir.bbn.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">One thing that perhaps might want to be captured in other disputes is</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">what happens when one country actually occupies and controls the</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">disputed territory. There, there's a de facto border and a claim.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">The Senkaku Island dispute would make this really rough. Whoever controls the island gets to use the "Exclusive Economic Zone" for it, and the border drawn around the islands are murky. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">China and Japan regularly send people to "visit" the islands. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">China is now building / expanding Atolls, so they are literally making new islands to expand their border (which would be in the ocean) - where the lines would be seem very unclear >< </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">China has turned some atolls into actual islands with facilities, so they are inhabited - but are they China's? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/south-china-sea/" class="">http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/south-china-sea/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I guess it would be clearer for disputes like the Kuril Islands - claimed by Japan, occupied and administered by Russia - but passports are not "required". </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Russian administration and long time residents living in disputed territory. For 70 years. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute</a></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>