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Access is also used (misused?) for things other than highways ...
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A hotel may be for 'designated' persons only .. eg employees,
students only for an apartment building. <br>
An entry may be 'private' for residence only. <br>
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Those kind of restrictions have been tagged with the access tag.
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On 24/07/2015 11:09 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I wonder what
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<div>highway=primary; access=designated means. I think JOSM even
complains about this.</div>
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<div>Don't you need a type of road that already restricts the
access to 1 type of vehicles for that, such as highway=bicycle
? (although in many countries that one implies foot=yes, so it
isn't well defined in here neither.)</div>
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<div>Can't we just get rid of access=designated and only allow
designated with a specific "vehicle" type, such as
bicycle=designated or foot=designated ?</div>
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<div>regards</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Hubert
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href="mailto:sg.forum@gmx.de" target="_blank">sg.forum@gmx.de</a>></span>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">Hallo</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">,</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">during a</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> discussion within
the german forum [1],</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">I have been
pointed to the description box of the</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">access=designated</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> wikipage [2]</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">.</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">It reads</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">“</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">A way marked for a particular use.</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">I would like to change it to</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">A way</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri"> designated</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri"> for a particular use</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> or</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">A way</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">intended</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> for a particular
use.</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">”</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">. Probably the latter one.</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">The
reason is, that the</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">word</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">marked</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> implies that a way
is</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">,well, marked with
a traffic sign or by road paintings, which is not</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri"> necessarily true. </font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Also
the topic</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">”</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">general</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">use case</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> is not</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">that</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">strictly</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri"> formulated as the</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">description</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> box</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri"> and allows the use of</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">designated</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Calibri">”</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> in</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">a</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">much</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font
face="Calibri">wider</font></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">range of cases.</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Are
there any objections against me change that word?</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Yours</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Hubert</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"> </span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">[1]</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="de"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31980"
target="_blank"><span lang="de"></span><u><span
lang="en-us"><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31980</font></span></u><span
lang="de"></span></a><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">[2]</font></span><span
lang="de"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="de"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access=designated"
target="_blank"><span lang="de"></span><u><span
lang="en-us"><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access=designated</font></span></u><span
lang="de"></span></a><span lang="de"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span></p>
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