<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 5, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" class="">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">FWIW, "access" tag and subtags are generally wrong on parking lots in this context, IMHO, what we normally want to say is that _parking_ is restricted. Access (e.g. walking there) is typically permissive on these sites. Anyway, it's documented like this.<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>you’re right, waking there is allowed. but cars can be physically restricted by a gate. <br class=""><br class="">There is a trend at modern shopping malls here (huge outlet malls with 1000+ spaces) to have a separate handicapped parking lot directly in front of the location, surrounded by the highway=pedestrian expanse of the malls main walkway. The very short parking isle into this small lot sometimes has a gate on it opened by the security guard or possibly some official Japan issued remote. <br class=""><br class="">This is following the trend at Japanese service areas that have a "handicapped bay" parking at newly remodeled Service Areas on the motorway, completely separate from the main parking (same for motorcycles). This seems to be a new standard, as all of the service areas (I have visited) have had them added in the last couple years. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Modern Service Area “Handicapped Bay"</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@35.84261,139.50442,3a,75y,188.69h,82.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjjSOsbRR_lYB1jnQX0ChXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656" class="">https://www.google.com/maps/@35.84261,139.50442,3a,75y,188.69h,82.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjjSOsbRR_lYB1jnQX0ChXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656</a><br class=""><br class="">separate mall parking with a gate (at the blue disabled turn from the main way, barrier=lift_gate in the shadow) </div><div class=""><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1432557,139.5414653,22z/data=!3m1!1e3" class="">https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1432557,139.5414653,22z/data=!3m1!1e3</a><br class=""><br class="">separate mall parking without a gate<br class=""><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7144488,140.2931003,21z/data=!3m1!1e3" class="">https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7144488,140.2931003,21z/data=!3m1!1e3</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The last one I don’t have a picture of, but I have seen a lift gate for each individual space - each space has a lift gate blocking it, as the spaces in the parking structure are on the ground floor directly next to the mall entrance, so people abuse them. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Javbw<br class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>