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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi<br>
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      I presume the upper levels have a protective barrier such as a
      wall. Would that help?<br>
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      I've mapped a bridge as pedestrian area (closed way + area=yes)
      Unfortunately some entities below render through. Try it out - see
      if it works  <br>
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      Dave F.<br>
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      On 11/08/2015 11:41, johnw wrote:<br>
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      Places where Pedestrian areas overlap are very difficult for me to
      map and also render very badly.
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      <div class="">I was wondering if someone has some suggestions on
        how to map this area </div>
      <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/35.77740/140.31301"
          class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/35.77740/140.31301</a></div>
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      <div class="">This is Narita Station West Exit, with a big loop
        road, with a pedestrian area around it (layer 1) , adjacent to a
        2 story bicycle parking structure. </div>
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      <div class="">On top of the structure is a large pedestrian area
        that overlaps the lower one, as well as the street. (layer 2) </div>
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      <div class="">and up another flight of stairs to the northeast
        from the 2nd pedestrian level is the actual station (it is all
        built against a hill) </div>
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      <div class="">between the overlapping ped areas that don’t like to
        render well, or render as bridges, and with footpath access
        tunnels through he bike structure for the stairs and elevator,
        and the lack of a “parking structure” entrance/exit for bike
        structures, and the lack of a multi-storey subkey for bike
        parking (only present in presets for car parking - almost every
        big station has a multi-storey bike parking structure under
        elevated tracks - even my school has a free-standing two story
        bike parking structure) makes everything about this place
        confusing for tagging - beyond what nodes for building edges get
        shared and not shared, which I’m still struggling with. </div>
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      <div class="">I mapped the overlappign part of the ped area as a
        way with bridge=yes so it overlaps somewhat corectly, but it
        doesn’t match the actual area.</div>
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      <div class="">Mapion maps it quite well, but they don’t bother to
        map the ped areas on the ground whatsoever. the color shift is
        to represent different address blocks. </div>
      <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sasp.mapion.co.jp/cm/jreast/?icon=jreast%7C140.19.0.0,35.46.27.0&scl=3000"
          class="">http://sasp.mapion.co.jp/cm/jreast/?icon=jreast|140.19.0.0%2c35.46.27.0&scl=3000</a> </div>
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      <div class="">any advice for:</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">- dealing with the overlapping ped area that doesn’t
        play well with others</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">- dealing with shared nodes between the layers when
        they share a common wall, but not common height</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">- dealing with bicycle parking as a multi-storey
        structure with entrances similar to a car parking garage (but
        absolutely not for cars). Are the car subtag values also valid? </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">This parking structure entrance (north)</div>
      <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.google.com/maps/@35.778165,140.313204,3a,45.3y,107.88h,84.89t/data=%213m4%211e1%213m2%211sOix-kpodU98lgaWkG1oVwA%212e0"
          class="">https://www.google.com/maps/@35.778165,140.313204,3a,45.3y,107.88h,84.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOix-kpodU98lgaWkG1oVwA!2e0</a></div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">my local train station bicycle parking</div>
      <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.google.com/maps/@36.410713,139.333553,3a,55.4y,72.49h,88.9t/data=%213m4%211e1%213m2%211sm56cVOh3YzHbFcjB_TE_0A%212e0"
          class="">https://www.google.com/maps/@36.410713,139.333553,3a,55.4y,72.49h,88.9t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sm56cVOh3YzHbFcjB_TE_0A!2e0</a></div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">My school’s free-standing multi-storey bicycle
        parking structure </div>
      <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.google.com/maps/@36.408608,139.335244,3a,55.4y,248.58h,96.34t/data=%213m4%211e1%213m2%211st4sFdtD9bSw2N0OY9PCt6A%212e0"
          class="">https://www.google.com/maps/@36.408608,139.335244,3a,55.4y,248.58h,96.34t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1st4sFdtD9bSw2N0OY9PCt6A!2e0</a> </div>
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      <div class="">Thanks for your help in advance.</div>
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      <div class="">Javbw</div>
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