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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/09/2015 12:56 PM, Dave Swarthout
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<div dir="ltr">I too have wanted to raise the level of
consciousness about these offices. There are many in Thailand
but their tagging is not uniform and that makes them difficult
to find.
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<div>amenity=immigration_office might be a better choice IMO but
either would help the current situation. </div>
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office=immigration ? <br>
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There is already office=government ... but no sub tags! and the
document for office=administrative suggest that office=government is
for state government things. This is an American view.. the British
do not do this - they have a 'central government'
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_United_Kingdom">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_United_Kingdom</a>. <br>
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Perhaps <br>
office=government<br>
government=immigration ? <br>
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or <br>
government:immigration=yes <br>
would be better where the office functions are combined..<br>
government:passport=yes <br>
government:vehicle_licence=yes<br>
etc... <br>
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The office=government is under represented in the OSM data base ..
perhaps because there are no sub tags to further identify what it is
used for. <br>
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<div>As for the name tag, I think it best to defer to the
standard OSM practice which is to provide the name in the
local language and use the name:en tag for the translated
variety. Here in Thailand there are many nationalities beside
English speakers that make use of these offices, among them
are large numbers of Burmese, Cambodians, Germans, and
Japanese.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Dave</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, johnw
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<div>I’ve been wanting to make a amenity=immigration
because usually foreign residents (and only foreign
residents) go to such facilities - so local mappers are
usually unaware of their existence or importance. <br>
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-1 for amenity. <br>
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<div>These are places where people apply for new visas,
extensions to existing visas, and change from one visa
type to another. Usually regional ones cover mostly visa
extensions for residents, whereas a main office would
cover the gamut from people looking for asylum to people
applying for new visas to be come residents in some
manner for work or marriage.</div>
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<div>Finding the regional offices in your host country can
be very difficult if there is a language barrier -
sometimes they are in a giant government complex,
sometimes they are a standalone facility - but they
should be very clearly marked. My old office was hidden
on the 3rd floor of a non-descript building next to a
clothing shop. Almost no signage helped you find it,
until you were in the lobby of the building.</div>
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<div>These facilities are *not* border control nor
passport applications offices - as they deal only with
the foreign people living in their area. They might be
in the same complex, but often times they are not, and
warrant their own tag. </div>
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<div>This the building I have to visit in Japan for my
residence visa now. It is a small building run by the
Justice Ministry, as the program was recently
transferred from customs to Justice (AFAIK). </div>
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<div>They also have a small prisoner transfer center
there, which gets a rendered icon. This is the only
office within 2 hours of travel - so many thousands of
foreigners have to come to this one office every year or
so from all over the region.</div>
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<div>As an aside, I think we should suggest the name=*
field to be the defacto “foreign" language for the
country, which would be English for most of Asia (they
standardize on english as a common “foreign" language),
which would be very helpful for the foreigners having to
visit there - as (in my case) no Japanese citizen ever
needs to visit nor care about the office (unless married
to a foreigner) - and the asian language scripts are
often unreadable to new foreign residents who are
looking for the office to visit.</div>
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<div>The native language and others can of course be
tagged as well, but I think the facility should have
it’s "foreign" language name rendered first and
foremost.</div>
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<div>Javbw</div>
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<div>On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Blake Girardot
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<div>Hi all,<br>
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I am looking through taginfo and the wiki, but I
don't see a good clear tag for
immigrant/asylum/refugee "reception" centers.<br>
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These are usually government type facilities
that process immigrants and refugees.<br>
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Some are also holding facilities, and some are
just government offices.<br>
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They are separate and distinct from standard
passport control or border check points.<br>
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Any suggestions?<br>
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