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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-09-24 17:32, Kotya Karapetyan
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<div dir="ltr">Hi André, all,
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<div>Shall we discuss an "object_warning" tag? To begin with, it
will simply contain information. Editors can also choose to
show it when the tagged object is about to be changed.</div>
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Gladly (of course), I suppose that all those discussions were meant
to come to a concrete result.<br>
But beware that it is not "object_warning" that seems to protect the
whole element.<br>
It is<br>
<keyname>:warning=<text><br>
which acts only when that key is changed.<br>
geometry:warning=<text> to protect the coordinates of the
element<br>
name:warning=<text> to protect its name.<br>
Those tags do not warn against changing other tags.<br>
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But it's a good implicit remark that the whole object could be
protected, including from deletion.<br>
warning=<text><br>
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"about to be changed" is not "about to be uploaded" (needing to
identify several elements" but when the user clicks for changing
(normally) one element.<br>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Kotya</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:53 AM, André
Pirard <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>On 2015-09-17 18:02, Kotya Karapetyan wrote :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi André,
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<div>I don't know why your text was removed. </div>
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<div>> It would produce a message saying
something like: </div>
<div>> "The coordinates you are trying to change
are accurate to 25 cm. </div>
<div>> You probably shouldn't change this tag,
certainly not with GPS data. </div>
<div>> Are you certain that you will not destroy
valuable data and do you want to continue?".</div>
> And if he replies "no", his attempt is
canceled. </span>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I like this approach. I
wonder if it is technically feasible.<br>
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Forget about my bad examples and the eagerness to pick
them.<br>
Here is the original text.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">... Despite a "don't touch" note
explaining why not, a good soul passes, not reading
note and makes a "correction".<br>
What is needed here is an "are you sure?" tag named
such as [keyname:]warning="text" that the map editing
softwate uses any time a mapper wants to change that
keyname's value to display the message and ask for a
confirmation (by the tag, at the time he tries to
change it, not when he tries to upload a dozen of such
changes).<br>
<text>="Reasons why you shouldn't change that
tag. Do you really want to change it?"<br>
Replying "no" cancels the attempt.<br>
Or should it be [keyname:]note:warn="text" and spare
another wiki page?<br>
keyname can be "geometry" as in source:geometry.<br>
Et voilà. An all-purpose simple guardrail, a small
update to the wiki and passing the word to the
editors.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">My point was that to make
it generic may be more difficult than creating a
very specific tag/function for survey-based data.
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IMHO it may be simpler that some specific implementations
and certainly when their numbers reaches 2.<br>
The answer will be given by JOSM et al.<br>
It doesn't address "mechanical" updates, but the persons
doing them are supposed to know what they're doing, aren't
they?<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">And I didn't understand the
benefit for your other examples. But otherwise I
support it.</div>
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Those examples forgotten, other voices are needed, the
wiki update has almost been written.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Kotya</div>
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General tip: Kotya, do you know that you can have your <a
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href="mailto:kotya.lists@gmail.com" target="_blank">kotya.lists@gmail.com</a>
account use filters to store messages in by-the-list
folders and access those folders using IMAP with software
like Thunderbird and do things like answering to ancient
mail?<br>
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