<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" class="">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">a sign that let's you pass the red light if you turn right and there are no pedestrians (and not crossing traffic).</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">In America, turning right on a red signal is usually allowed (unless you spot a rare “no turn on red sign”), and in California there is very little pedestrian traffic, so people turning right do rolling stops into most intersections hoping it is clear so they can make the turn without stopping at all - just like they do at all stop signs. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Japan, there is no moving on red signals ever, as the narrow roads and huge numbers of people walking and biking (the wrong way in the road) make it super dangerous. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a California driver, waiting infuriated me at first, but once you feel the pressure of having to “move” (for the other people trying to also turn right) lifted off of you, it is quite relaxing - red is stop, and there is nothing I can do about it, so take a sip of water and relax. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Javbw</div></body></html>