<div dir="ltr">Hi Javbw, I want to confirm your point.<br><br>*You want to establish a new tag such as traffic_signals_area to solve multiple signals rendering.<br>*Opinions on the new tag are welcome from Japanese/Asian community because rendering of traffic signal and its name is very important for (car) navigation in Japan/Asia.<br><br>You showed another issue such as dual labels or default map localization, but I want to focus on the above issue at this time.<br><br>I will post a mail to Japanese ML after some document translation finished such as traffic_signals_area.<br><br>--<br>I like Mapion too. But Mapion is not perfect.<br><br>At first, check Yahoo map.<br><a href="http://maps.loco.yahoo.co.jp/maps?type=scroll&datum=wgs&mode=map&pointer=off&lat=35.4573089010882&lon=139.619295364418&z=19">http://maps.loco.yahoo.co.jp/maps?type=scroll&datum=wgs&mode=map&pointer=off&lat=35.4573089010882&lon=139.619295364418&z=19</a><br>You will see an unnamed traffic signal just north of Tobe (戸部) station.<br><br>However Mapion doesn't show it.<br><a href="http://www.mapion.co.jp/m2/35.45725737865473,139.61930034601284,19">http://www.mapion.co.jp/m2/35.45725737865473,139.61930034601284,19</a><br>And Google map doesn't show it.<br><br>And you will notice multiple traffic signals rendering on Mapion just east of that signal. Nothing is perfect. But at least we can make OSM better.<br><br>muramoto<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-09 20:28 GMT+09:00 Michał Brzozowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:www.haxor@gmail.com" target="_blank">www.haxor@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:59 AM, johnw <<a href="mailto:johnw@mac.com">johnw@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Google Maps is actually two different sets of data: Google’s and a Japanese<br>
> GIS company, Zenrin. They have basically surveyed all of Japan building by<br>
> building, and everything is drawn area based (because the roads in Japan can<br>
> be such weird shapes and always change width suddenly).<br>
<br>
</span>Frankly I don't find their road system to be that different to<br>
necessitate areal representation, I guess it's more of a tradition<br>
thing. But if you don't know, there is area:highway tagging scheme<br>
developed by Marek Kleciak that allows to represent roads as areas, as<br>
an extension to their linear representation. Note this is distinct<br>
from area=yes highways that simply don't have any meaningful axis. If<br>
there are resources available, people of Polish community (marimil)<br>
could help set up a visualization layer for it.<br>
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Michał<br>
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