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<p>I don't propose to change this tagging style.</p>
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Maybe I was not clear about the intended improvement:
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<div>I found 940 nodes which were tagged with highway=traffic_calming.</div>
<div>Most of them were also tagged with e.g. traffic_calming=bump</div>
<div>or <span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;">traffic_calming=table or one of the other well documented values.</span></div>
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<div>I changed those few to traffic_calming=yes and removed the obsolete </div>
<div>highway=traffic_calming tag from the other.</div>
<div>I also verified that the changed nodes are on a highway=* way.</div>
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<div>A few nodes were tagged with crossing=*, in those cases I added the tag</div>
<div>highway=crossing (and kept the traffic_calming=* tag)</div>
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<div>I think the only problem here is that I did this in a large changeset </div>
<div>and thus produced what is called a mechanical edit.</div>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 20. November 2015 18:07<br>
<b>An:</b> David Swarthout; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming</font>
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<div>I routinely use the combination of <br>
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crossing=uncontrolled<br>
traffic_calming=table or traffic_calming=hump<br>
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For these combined features the synthax <br>
highway=traffic_calming<br>
traffic_calming=bump cannot be used<br>
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Also JOSM supports this combined mapping.<br>
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I thought this was the standard way of mapping the combination of pedestrian crossing and a slow-down hump or table.<br>
Please do not touch these without discussion. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 November 2015 at 17:41, Dave Swarthout <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">The traffic_calming nodes I've added are common in Thailand where they are used to force traffic to go slow. These are most often bumps in the road, an asphalt or concrete bump, that will knock you off your motorcycle if you hit it fast enough.
But they are definitely not crossings. I've seen a few traffic_calming "humps" (a longer bump) that have a crossing on them in Eugene, Oregon, but they are unusual, not the normal case.</div>
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Just to make sure:<br>
I've not changed nodes tagged highway=crossing,<br>
but I changed some that were tagged highway=traffic_calming<br>
to highay=crossing. I see no problem to add a tag<br>
like traffic_calming=island to the same node, but<br>
I think that e.g. bumps are typically before the crossing,<br>
so those should be tagged on a different node.<br>
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Gerd<br>
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Von: Rafael Avila Coya <<a href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com" target="_blank">ravilacoya@gmail.com</a>><br>
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2015 17:10<br>
An: <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming<br>
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Hi:<br>
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What happens when a traffic calming is a crossing for pedestrians at the<br>
same time? I have some examples in this avenue of my home town where I<br>
live: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514</a><br>
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I find it is more important to mark it as a highway=crossing than a<br>
highway=traffic_calming<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Rafael.<br>
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On 20/11/15 16:19, GerdP wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
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> I've noticed that a few (940) traffic_calmings are mapped as<br>
> highway=traffic_calming , most of them also have the tag<br>
> traffic_calming=*, but ~ 10% did not.<br>
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> The vast majority (> 212000) of the nodes tagged traffic_calming=* is not<br>
> also tagged highway=traffic_calming. I looked at the wiki and thought that<br>
> it<br>
> is simply a bit missleading as traffic_calming appears on the highway side<br>
><br>
> So I started to cleanup, found a few nodes which where highway=crossing<br>
> instead of traffic_calming, found a few nodes not (yet) connected to roads<br>
> and finally decided to do a few larger changes today.<br>
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> After the last change one of the bigger changes was commented by user chilly<br>
> as an undiscussed mechanical edit, see<br>
> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35457641" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35457641</a><br>
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> As stated in the changeset comment I hope that the change is okay,<br>
> and I am sorry that I start this discussion now instead of asking first.<br>
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> Please let me know what you think about the edit itself and whether or not<br>
> I should revert all changes related to this tag.<br>
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> Gerd<br>
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