<html><head></head><body>A raised area several feet across with a marked crosswalk on top is not uncommon in Silicon Valley and more of them seem to appearing in residential areas. I suspect that it is one of the newer ways to address the combined issue of traffic calming and pedestrian crossing.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On November 20, 2015 9:41:00 AM MST, Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">The traffic_calming nodes I've added are common in Thailand where they are used to force traffic to go slow. These are most often bumps in the road, an asphalt or concrete bump, that will knock you off your motorcycle if you hit it fast enough. But they are definitely not crossings. I've seen a few traffic_calming "humps" (a longer bump) that have a crossing on them in Eugene, Oregon, but they are unusual, not the normal case.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">GPetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just to make sure:<br />
I've not changed nodes tagged highway=crossing,<br />
but I changed some that were tagged highway=traffic_calming<br />
to highay=crossing. I see no problem to add a tag<br />
like traffic_calming=island to the same node, but<br />
I think that e.g. bumps are typically before the crossing,<br />
so those should be tagged on a different node.<br />
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Gerd<br />
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Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2015 17:10<br />
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Betreff: Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming<br />
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Hi:<br />
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What happens when a traffic calming is a crossing for pedestrians at the<br />
same time? I have some examples in this avenue of my home town where I<br />
live: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514</a><br />
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I find it is more important to mark it as a highway=crossing than a<br />
highway=traffic_calming<br />
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Cheers,<br />
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Rafael.<br />
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On 20/11/15 16:19, GerdP wrote:<br />
> Hi all,<br />
><br />
> I've noticed that a few (940) traffic_calmings are mapped as<br />
> highway=traffic_calming , most of them also have the tag<br />
> traffic_calming=*, but ~ 10% did not.<br />
><br />
> The vast majority (> 212000) of the nodes tagged traffic_calming=* is not<br />
> also tagged highway=traffic_calming. I looked at the wiki and thought that<br />
> it<br />
> is simply a bit missleading as traffic_calming appears on the highway side<br />
><br />
> So I started to cleanup, found a few nodes which where highway=crossing<br />
> instead of traffic_calming, found a few nodes not (yet) connected to roads<br />
> and finally decided to do a few larger changes today.<br />
><br />
> After the last change one of the bigger changes was commented by user chilly<br />
> as an undiscussed mechanical edit, see<br />
> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35457641" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35457641</a><br />
><br />
> As stated in the changeset comment I hope that the change is okay,<br />
> and I am sorry that I start this discussion now instead of asking first.<br />
><br />
> Please let me know what you think about the edit itself and whether or not<br />
> I should revert all changes related to this tag.<br />
><br />
> Gerd<br />
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