<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Tobias Knerr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm@tobias-knerr.de" target="_blank">osm@tobias-knerr.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":88o" class="a3s" style="overflow:hidden">Sure, but the sidewalk attribute is essential for other, much more basic<br>
use cases that separate ways fail to serve.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can you elaborate on why separate ways fail to serve?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":88o" class="a3s" style="overflow:hidden">
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> I don't think relations are the right answer either. It isn't easy to<br>
> teach new people how to add relations. We should be able to identify<br>
> footpaths adjacent to roads by their spatial characteristics.<br>
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</span>But we CAN'T, at least not in any reliable fashion. "Just draw a way<br>
somewhere near the road and magic computers sort out the mess" is,<br>
frankly, not a viable option.<br>
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There has to be some explicit connection between sidewalks and their<br>
roads. And as soon as you take this into account, the separate sidewalks<br>
stop being newbie friendly at all. They only seem that way because you<br>
pretend the main challenge does not exist.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Setting aside the newbie friendly issue, how do you map a crosswalk in the middle of a street? How do you map kerb slopes when the the slope is in the corner the intersection? I realize that both are possible, but the complexity of the tagging required increases significantly over a separate way. </div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>@osm_seattle<br></div><div><a href="http://osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us</a></div><div>OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch</div></div></div>
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